Posted on 06/17/2024 3:56:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
It’s disconcerting to contemplate that there is an Israeli version of Jimmy Carter. And further that any such creature should have been reeducated by the events of October 7th.
LOL! Israel today.
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The people of Israel do not really like Bibi. But at this moment, they do not trust anyone else to wage the war against Hamas.
I agree with your conclusions. I have friends in Israel who in the past have detested Bibi. I haven't asked lately what they think of him now. They are suffering rocket attacks daily.
The problem with Israel’s defense and intelligence establishments is (IMHO, as someone who has observed Israel with great fondness for the last 50 or so years and, in particular, these aspects of their society) that most of the time those in charge are infected by an insufferable amount of arrogance. You don’t get to be in charge by being a dope (and many who are very intelligent are arrogant to begin with); further, when dealing with opponents whose population has an average IQ of 85, you tend to be successful quite often - and that breeds yet more arrogance AND complacency.
We suffered from the same problems before Pearl Harbor - the “lowly” Japanese could never produce sophisticated enough technology, nor come up with the planning, necessary to pull off something like a raid on Pearl - so it was dismissed, even when elements of the military and our intelligence services KNEW what was happening - Hell, we saw their f’ing planes on radar and simply dismissed them.
The only way to fix this problem is to ALWAYS have a Team B, complosed of retired military and intell officials who are known to be stubborn and who operated against the conventional wisdom when they were active. If they despise those in charge of the military and intell agencies today, so much the better - and then those in charge had BETTER listen seriously to Team B’s recommendations, because if they don’t, then there’s no point. Reagan had a Team B to deal with the Soviet threat, and their recommendations were adopted in many cases, and to our great advantage to the conventional wisdom, CYA types that tend to inhabit the bureaucracies of ALL nations.
Why do you doubt it?
I’m a Christian. I don’t give people the benefit of the doubt. I judge them based in their fruits
They knew in advance and did nothing.
https://youtu.be/2PeYDphtHYo?si=Wd3B5SYiPNREsu3p
Here is an interesting take for you
You are unable to prove the mossad knew and did nothing. You made it up.
Good thing for them that they are not in Russia. Defenstrations of Pskov are a misery.
But it is very strange that the Israeli authorities did not react to the initial breach of the border barrier in Gaza. It was not just a single fence - they had seized land for a quarter of the kilometre, a buffer zone within Gaza, and it was closely covered with surveillance towers. Nothing moved, in the zone, without being seen in Tel Aviv. Well - not until Oct 7. And then the Hamas operatives began blowing up the surveillance towers, which should have triggered every sort of alarm, but did not. Meanwhile they are rushing over the fence, and hopping over on little kites, etc.
The IDF was not summoned until people in Israel started calling for help. This is extraordinary, and an explanation is needed. I suppose there will be an enquiry, after the war.
People with a predisposition on how the world works get into positions where they are expected to react to reality instead of some internal view of how things MUST be. I’ve seen this in corporations where, when things turn south and actions need to be taken, they are not. That’s because the things happening contradict and invalidate the preexisting view of how things MUST be. This is one thing that frightens me about putting, say, trans people into positions of power and authority. You already know that those people can create and live inside of their own special reality. What does that mean when they are expected to respond to changing conditions and those changes threaten their preestablished view of how things MUST be?
One of the most dangerous things you find in any organization is holding people to goals and objectives. The goal, in this case, is to minimize the number of cross border incidents, then the obvious way of meeting that is to simply not report or respond to such incidents. I don’t know what happened here, but it’s quite obvious the failure is on the interpretation side of the equation. All the evidence was there and obvious. It had doubtless been reported up the chain. But somewhere along that chain somebody said, “No, that can’t be. The people reporting are overreacting.” And, likely, the information stopped right there. That is a danger of hierarchical systems. Hierarchy is great for organizing things but can block feedback to the top.
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