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J.D. Vance's Incoherent Argument for Higher Minimum Wages
Reason ^ | 6.14.2024 | Eric Boehm

Posted on 06/17/2024 10:47:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Jonny7797

The federal minimum wage law has withstood 3 SCOTUS rulings in the past.


41 posted on 06/17/2024 11:51:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nickcarraway; All
The "managerial class" has been camping out in the Republican Party for over 50 years. That is why we have virtually no tariffs, no more manufacturing to speak of, open borders, cheap labor, H-1b visas, and an unchanged minimum wage for over 20 years.

Along comes Trump who is changing the Republican Party into the "working class" party. The "working class" out numbers the "managerial class" by 3:1, maybe 4:1? Who is going to win? We will see....

42 posted on 06/17/2024 11:52:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: devere
The "managerial class" has been camping out in the Republican Party for over 50 years. That is why we have virtually no tariffs, no more manufacturing to speak of, open borders, cheap labor, H-1b visas, and an unchanged minimum wage for over 20 years.

Along comes Trump who is changing the Republican Party into the "working class" party. The "working class" out numbers the "managerial class" by 3:1, maybe 4:1? Who is going to win? We will see....

43 posted on 06/17/2024 11:52:45 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: cnsmom

Yes.


44 posted on 06/17/2024 11:53:18 AM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: central_va

We’ve always had tariffs. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, all had tariffs, even though they’ve been proven not to help.


45 posted on 06/17/2024 11:55:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nitzy

I don’t remember Romney, McCain, or Bush speaking out against minimum wage. If anything, I think they’d be for it.


46 posted on 06/17/2024 11:57:33 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: central_va

I disagree with your assessment. The “managerial class” has been entrenched in the Democratic Party since the 1990s.


47 posted on 06/17/2024 11:57:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: montag813

Isn’t Vance advocating for open borders by promoting a minimum wage? Isn’t that the whole point of a minimum wage?


48 posted on 06/17/2024 11:59:42 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Alberta's Child

HS. For example 50% of Freepers are managerial class.


49 posted on 06/17/2024 11:59:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: nickcarraway

We don’t enforce our paltry tariffs. Every other country has really high import tariffs.


50 posted on 06/17/2024 12:00:51 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Minimum wage is supposed to be a policy to make open borders go down easier. “You know we’re screwing you with open borders, so we’ll give you the charade of a minimum wage to supposedly make up for it. “


51 posted on 06/17/2024 12:01:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The VP pool is shrinking.....


52 posted on 06/17/2024 12:04:19 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Churchillspirit

Why can’t Trump be his own VP?


53 posted on 06/17/2024 12:06:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: cnsmom

Vance is another person Trump likes and may have as his VP or in his cabinet, but is just a lousy big-government RINO.


54 posted on 06/17/2024 12:07:07 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Tut! Tut! Silly Nick.!


55 posted on 06/17/2024 12:11:59 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: JSM_Liberty

Thanks. He does sound a bit confused about the minimum wage. But he wasn’t really talking about the pros and cons of that - he was talking about the danger of failing to protect low-skilled American workers from cheap Mexican labor.

As with tariffs, there is a lesser-of-two-evils element:

Both tariffs and minimum wages are forms of price controls - which we conservatives traditionally consider bad. But when those same price controls and market interventions are applied judiciously to trade or immigration policy - that’s protectionism, which we conservatives (the smart ones at least ) call protectionism - which is a good thing - putting America First.

I think Vance gets it, but he was a bit clumsy and got caught conflating America First market intervention (good) with domestic market intervention (bad).

Domestic minimum wage is always a bad idea - Vance should know better - but in his defense, that example was tangential to the main point he was making.


56 posted on 06/17/2024 12:22:14 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: central_va

Please provide a set of examples for us on this thread.


57 posted on 06/17/2024 12:24:20 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t understand why Trump doesn’t wan DeSantis to be Vice President.


58 posted on 06/17/2024 12:33:52 PM PDT by Savage Beast (If they can do it to him, they can do it to us.)
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To: nickcarraway

Any unskilled worker making minimum wage of $20 an hour is on my boycott list don’t feed the pigeons.


59 posted on 06/17/2024 12:41:36 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Erik Latranyi
I am a conservative first

I suspect your definition of conservative is the same as liz cheney's.
60 posted on 06/17/2024 12:44:46 PM PDT by JoSixChip (P.S. There’s a fed in that thread you’re in right now.)
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