Posted on 06/16/2024 9:32:42 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
he edge of Greenland’s ice sheet looked like a big lick of sludgy white frosting spilling over a rise of billion-year-old brown rock. Inside the Twin Otter’s cabin, there were five of us: two pilots, a scientist, an engineer, and me. Farther north, we would have needed another seat for a rifle-armed guard. Here, we were told to just look around for polar-bear tracks on our descent. We had taken off from Greenland’s west coast and soon passed over the ice sheet’s lip. Viewed from directly above, the first 10 miles of ice looked wrinkled, like elephant skin. Its folds and creases appeared to be lit blue from within.
We landed 80 miles into the interior with a swervy skid. Our engineer, a burly Frenchman named Nicolas Bayou, jerked the door open, and an unearthly cold ripped through the cabin. The ice was smoother here. The May sunlight radiated off it like a pure-white aurora. We knew that there were no large crevasses near the landing site. This was a NASA mission. We had orbital reconnaissance. Still, our safety officer had warned us that we could “pop down” into a hidden crack in the ice if we ventured too far from the plane. Bayou appointed himself our Neil Armstrong. He unfolded the ladder, stepped gingerly down its rungs, and set foot on the surface.
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Wild idea #1: “ The glaciologists have often felt ignored. In recent years, they have begun to bicker, largely behind closed doors, about whether to push a more interventionist approach. Some now think that we should try to control the flow of the planet’s most vulnerable glaciers. They say that with the right technology, we might be able to freeze them in place, stopping their slide into the seas.”
“ According to the leading theory, the layer of water underneath it thinned, perhaps by draining into the underside of another glacier. Having lost its lubrication, the glacier slowed down and sank toward the bedrock below. At its base, a cooling feedback loop took hold. Eventually, enough of it froze to its bed to keep it in place.”
Wild idea #2: “ He imagined drilling down to its subglacial lakes to pump the water out of them. He imagined it gushing from the pumps’ outlets and freezing into tiny crystals before it even splashed onto the Antarctic surface, “like a snow gun.” The remaining water underneath the ice would likely flow toward the empty lakes, drying out portions of the glacier’s underside. With luck, a cooling feedback loop would be triggered. Thwaites would freeze in place. Catastrophic sea-level rise would be avoided. Humanity would have time to get its act together.”
Wild idea #3: “… wrapping the Earth in a layer of aerosols to dim the sun, he merely wants to intervene at the glacier”
Wild ideas #4 & #5: “ Another team of scientists has suggested that mind-bogglingly large swaths of insulating fabric could be draped on top of vulnerable glaciers to keep them cold. Still another team has proposed that a curtain—made of plastic or some other material—be stretched across the 75-mile-wide zone where Thwaites meets the sea, to divert the warm water that is flowing underneath it.”
He then spends the rest of the article explaining the science-fiction-like logistics and technology needed to implement Wild Idea #2.
Fun read for light entertainment.
SF and major coastal cities 'sinking' amid rising sea levels, report says
"The [San Francisco] Bay Area is ground zero for climate change and sea level rise. We are literally 8 million people living in a bathtub."
By Suzanne Phan
ABC KGO News
March 7, 2024
Let them play with the glaciers in the privacy of antarctica, if they want. It’ll keep them busy. No aerosols or other schemes to block out the sun. Good grief. That was a Simpsons story line.
the last ice age is still ending, nothing we can do will stop that, slow that, or speed it up.
We need to get over ourselves and how much effect we can have on climate
That’s a good one. I, gonna’ steal it.
NO SUN====NO FOOD GROWING
HOW MANY YEARS WAS PLANT GROWTH & FOOD PRODUCTION INTERRUPTED BY KRAKATOA????
The “crisis” is invented and preached about until the government provides our tax revenue to fund the “research” into the invention.
Growing less food is exactly what the climate activists (A.K.A. communists want). They’d love to reduce the world’s population by a few billion.
Just pump it into the Sahara.
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No kidding. 6,100 words of that horrible NPR / PBS / Atlantic style of cloying, nauseating writing. Ugh. Garbage after garbage upon garbage.
I think they want to cover the glaciers with cloth. And drill lots of holes into the glaciers.
No idea what their plan is. Probably nonsensical.
Oceans will indeed rise again and future generations will have to deal with it. But first we will end our current interglacial period (might happen in a few thousand years or so) and resume a full-bore ice age that would last maybe 100K years or so. That will result in massive relocations and starvations. Huge problem to be faced someday.
Then as the ice subsides another interglacial starts up and the melting glaciers would raise the seas 20-30 feet or so. More problems. These are not modeled nonsense but based on hard data that tell us this planet experiences ice age cycles every 120K years or so.
Future problems that these “climate scientists” have no clue how to deal with. If the leftists would just get out of the way technologies could develop and future peoples would have the resources with these real problems they will face.
Instead they want to squander precious resources using our primitive existing technologies chasing CO2 levels. Chasing ghosts. Nuts.
According to the Dems, people are passive receptacles of oppression. If they’ve fallen, they can’t get up. I hope they practice what they preach, and fall and can’t get up. But sea waters rising? Pfah! It’s happened before. It can happen again, and we’re ready for it, or will be.
Great YA book, The Big Wave, by Pearl S. Buck, tells of a small Japanese fishing village that periodically was destroyed by tsunamis, and the survivors always rebuilt. As a boy, I read that book over and over again. Now I hear that they made a movie about it back in 1961. It’s the story of mankind, coping and rebuilding and starting over again.
Good comment.
They pre-determine which technologies to pursue, and they exclude all others, and only fund and encourage the ones they want. Extremely destructive control freaks.
It’s averting itself. We’re fine. Quit worrying about stupid stuff.😎
B-but if you worry about real stuff, th-they call you mean names, like “extremist” and “Nazi” and “racist”. Oh, my.
Join a different religion (shrug)
“ the last ice age is still ending…”
We’re about halfway through this inter-glacial period, given the length of the previous four.
I figure global warming is just God’s way of keeping Chicago from being scraped off the map by a mile-high glacier.
Best plan is to chip off the ice and package it as ice cubes and also use the meltwater to make “Greenland Ice Water”.
All the water will end up on land and get ‘recycled’ into groundwater.
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