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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Ukraine has borders it cannot protect. It didn't, years ago, either, when Russia first came in and Ukraine's NAZIs fought.

Ukraine should have made some compromise, but greatly built up defenses. It did neither, and it seems a huge number of Ukraine's men are hiding out and not willing to fight.

Russia has had consequences, and lost a chunk of it own men, but a lot of other stuff has worked to its advantage.

We have no treaty to protect Ukraine, only promises to talk with Russia if there were unsolvable conflicts. Ukraine needed to step up or give up.

7 posted on 06/13/2024 9:15:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind
....Ukraine's NAZIs....

Some nut in Ukraine scraped up 900 pseudo-Nazis out af a population of 41 million, so now Ukraine is totally, totally totally fascist. Riiiight.

Y'know Russia has its' own share of fascists, and by headcount it's far, far bigger than Ukraine's. The head fascist is Putin himself.

11 posted on 06/13/2024 9:31:16 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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A few items of importance — in order of importance:

1) Ukraine has no oil. Every once in a while someone claims they do. They don’t. Here is the bible of energy for 70 years of tracking. It shows 0 reserves for Ukraine:
https://www.energyinst.org/statistical-review (scroll down to download the spreadsheet (not the .pdf)) UNDERSTAND THIS. Ukraine has no oil.

2) Ukraine’s natgas reserves are 1.1 Trillion Cubic Meters. This is essentially nothing. It represents 0.6% of the world’s total. Russia’s natgas reserves are 37.4 Trillion Cubic Meters. Russia has no need for these.

3) The attack on Ukraine had nothing to do with oil or gas.

4) Russia’s planted hectares are more than double that in Ukraine, and there are vast expanses of land presently not planted that can be should there be a need. In contrast, 3/4 of Ukraine farmland is planted yearly. Farmland had nothing to do with the attack.

So proceed with whatever theories based on these indisputable facts.


14 posted on 06/13/2024 9:37:50 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Let me summarize your comment, thus:

“A quarrel in a faraway country, between people of whom we know nothing” - Neville Chamberlain


17 posted on 06/13/2024 9:42:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (לעזאזל עם חמאס)
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