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To: srmanuel

On June 6, 1944, the Russians were our allies, they paid a huge price in defeating Nazi Germany, criticize Russia all you want, just do it on some other day besides today.

And Roosevelt was pretty cozy with Stalin much to the dislike of Churchill


11 posted on 06/06/2024 7:13:11 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: BobinIL

They wouldn’t have had to had they not become allies with Hitler in 1939. All because Stalin wanted his revenge on Poland.


13 posted on 06/06/2024 7:14:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BobinIL

True, but on this day, I’m not interested in all of that, I’m watching all the coverage today, it’s a shame a demented fool of a POTUS is throwing politics into a day that should be all about the greatest generation, like I said, be critical of Russia all you want, just do it on another day.


16 posted on 06/06/2024 7:18:35 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: BobinIL

The British have hated Russia for200 years, since not long after the era of Napoleon. It has nothing to do with communism of the Soviet era, because the UK is completely socialist and authoritarian today.
They hated Russia under the czar, they hated Russia under the Soviets reasonably, and when Russia became a republic they continue right on hating. Churchill’s main concern was the British empire, and how the British empire should span the globe and rule the world. Roosevelt, as an American did not hold the British empire or any other imperial possessions to be sacred.

In the 1850s the British went to war and invaded Crimea to attack the Russians base there. After the Japanese Russo wars in the early 1900s, the British helped the Japanese construct a more dangerous Navy with the goal of “containing” Czarist Russia in the Pacific.
In fact, in World War II at the battle off Samar where our destroyers fought a death match with a giant Japanese fleet, One of the battleships was the IJN Kongo, it was built by Vickers in England. Other ships in the fleet were license built designs.
All the Rudyard Kipling era British wars in Afghanistan was fought because the BRITs dreamed up an idea that the czar was going to invade India. The problem with face in Iran today was started by the Brits in the 20s and kicked into high gear when they got Dulles to overthrow Iran’s first elected leader. He was a nationalist who believed all of Iran soil should not automatically belong to the UK. They framed him as the Soviet agent. That led to the shah, which led to the Islamic revolution that we have today.
The British have a bizarre two century long obsession with Russia.

There is much to admire about Churchill, but it matters of empire and passionate hatred for anything Russian, he’s just a typical Brit.

The Brits and their great game have done incalculable damage to the world.


26 posted on 06/06/2024 8:02:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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