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Covid vaccines may have helped fuel rise in excess deaths
UK Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | 06 04 2024 | Sarah Knapton

Posted on 06/04/2024 8:27:40 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Covid vaccines could be partly to blame for the rise in excess deaths since the pandemic, scientists have suggested.

Researchers from The Netherlands analysed data from 47 Western countries and discovered there had been more than three million excess deaths since 2020, with the trend continuing despite the rollout of vaccines and containment measures.

They said the “unprecedented” figures “raised serious concerns” and called on governments to fully investigate the underlying causes, including possible vaccine harms.

Writing in the BMJ Public Health, the authors from Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, said: “Although Covid-19 vaccines were provided to guard civilians from suffering morbidity and mortality by the Covid-19 virus, suspected adverse events have been documented as well.

“Both medical professionals and citizens have reported serious injuries and deaths following vaccination to various official databases in the Western World.”

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KEYWORDS: bioweapon; covid; deaths; fauci; gainoffunction; trumpvaccine; vaccine; warpspeed
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To: phil00071

“Their strategy was successful in preventing Trump from getting re-elected.”

Bigly. And now looming before us is some other dreadful ‘demic — avian, etc. Just in time for November. Let’s see how stupid Americans are this time around. Let’s see if they have learned anything about hoaxes.


41 posted on 06/05/2024 5:09:13 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: yesthatjallen

There sure are a lot of cool aid drinkers on this site. It breaks my heart that there are so so many.


42 posted on 06/05/2024 5:30:21 AM PDT by Thomas Jerome
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To: MayflowerMadam

Take heart.

If so many of our fellow Americans were in fact that danged dumb, then Deep State wouldn’t have to steal elections would it? :-)


43 posted on 06/05/2024 5:33:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Gigantor
You’re a Doctor??

No, this person is a bought-and-paid for liar and shill.

44 posted on 06/05/2024 5:40:23 AM PDT by DSH
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To: sit-rep

Just get the specific data. Go do your own analysis, and make damn sure the data doesn’t come from some wacko who claims it is data.

If you want to knee jerk denial the CDC data, go find individual states — from which the CDC got that data. Do Your Own Analysis. I did. I found my sampling of states to match what CDC claimed for that state — and the EDs for age 0-45 just do not happen.

Nobody making claims about the global conspiracy to get people killed has gotten the pure, raw data and done their own analysis. They are generally just wackos.

GO GET THE DATA YOURSELF.


45 posted on 06/05/2024 6:58:05 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

BTT


46 posted on 06/05/2024 7:56:20 AM PDT by GailA (Land Grabs, Poisoned Food, KILL the COWS, Bidenomics=BIDEN DEPRESSION. STAGNATION)
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To: yesthatjallen
And to be clear, it's the Frankenstein mRNA poisons that were in primary use. (Not the traditional, protein-based legit vaccines).
47 posted on 06/05/2024 8:37:01 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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To: yesthatjallen

‘Spikeopathy’: COVID-19 Spike Protein Is Pathogenic, from Both Virus and Vaccine mRNA
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10452662/
“Pharmacokinetic transfection through body tissues distant from the injection site by lipid-nanoparticles or viral-vector carriers means that ‘spikeopathy’ can affect many organs. The inflammatory properties of the nanoparticles used to ferry mRNA; N1-methylpseudouridine employed to prolong synthetic mRNA function; the widespread biodistribution of the mRNA and DNA codes and translated spike proteins, and autoimmunity via human production of foreign proteins, contribute to harmful effects. This paper reviews autoimmune, cardiovascular, neurological, potential oncological effects, and autopsy evidence for spikeopathy. With many gene-based therapeutic technologies planned, a re-evaluation is necessary and timely.”
“In this narrative review, we examine the solid evidence for a counter-narrative to the ‘safe and effective’ message that has accompanied the novel product COVID-19 vaccines, which were developed at ‘warp speed’ with great hope to end the pandemic. This evidence has accumulated and dampened the original optimism. The implications for the recognition of vaccine-related diagnoses and the need for therapeutics are significant for all health practitioners and many research scientists to consider.”

AND Trump is NOT at fault. He was taking advice from so-called renowned physicians such as Fauci, who are just now being investigated as more scientific evidence is compiled. Physicians who countered the Fauci vax edict because of what they were seeing and learning first hand were squelched or fired.


48 posted on 06/05/2024 1:26:34 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: doc maverick; All

Jimmy Dore - Mainstream Media FINALLY Comes Around!

https://rumble.com/v4zt11h-mainstream-media-finally-comes-around.html


49 posted on 06/06/2024 2:32:21 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Adder
“mRNA vaccines also stimulate your immune system, but they work in a different way than other vaccines. The mRNA vaccines don’t contain the virus that causes disease. Instead, they contain “messenger molecules” (mRNA) that give your body instructions that are kind of like a special recipe. The instructions tell your cells how to make a piece of the protein from a virus, such as the virus that causes COVID-19.”

What do you think happens when a virus invades your body?

First, the virus inserts itself into any cell that has its target cell surface receptor. In the case of SARS-CoV-2, that is the ACE2 receptor.

Next, the virus takes over the function of the cell. It forces the cell to make all of the virus mRNAs (there are 29 of them in the SARS-CoV-2 virus) and the proteins whose blueprints are contained in those mRNAs. It also forces the cell to make copies of its genome (also made of RNA, in the case of coronaviruses). Then it packages those proteins and genomes into brand new viruses. When the cell is full of brand new viruses--thousands of them--it bursts, releasing all of those new viruses to infect nearby cells and get into the circulatory system where they can travel all over the body and infect other tissues. This process keeps repeating itself until the immune system kicks in, about two weeks after the virus infection first started.

And you seriously think that a vaccine containing a small amount of a single kind of virus mRNA injected into your arm where it is processed by the local lymph nodes is more dangerous than having billions of viruses invading your body and making vast quantities of all 29 different virus mRNAs?

Personally, I'd be far more worried about the consequences of an active virus infection. When those virus-filled cells burst, the damage is as physical as if you cut yourself. SARS-CoV-2 infects a variety of tissues, meaning that it can damage kidneys, lungs, the heart, the circulatory system, the lymph system, the reproductive system, the nervous system, etc. And if it infects stem cells within tissues, it damages the ability of those tissues to renew themselves. The effects of killing off stem cells might take years to manifest in tissues with low levels of cell replacement but are pretty serious when they finally do manifest.

BTW, thanks for going to the trouble of finding a short, simplistic explanation of how the mRNA vaccines work so that I, a PhD educated molecular biologist, can understand the process. A molecular biologist, FYI, is a person who studies nucleic acid function and structure. That means that I have a very deep knowledge of how mRNA is made, how it is processed (modified) after it is made, how it directs the ribosome to make proteins, its primary, secondary, and tertiary structures, the roles of codons, the significance of the wobble position, how mRNA is destroyed, etc.

50 posted on 06/07/2024 4:20:34 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: T.B. Yoits
As for causing death, Simian 40 (SV40) which was shown to be in the shot has been known to cause cancer since the 1960s and has been banned in injections since then.

Whenever we engineer a piece of DNA to produce a specific protein or RNA, we have to put signals into it so that the enzymes that make RNA know that there is a DNA sequence that they must copy. The SV40 promoter used in the plasmids encoding SARS-CoV-2 spike protein is one of those signals. It tells the RNA polymerases (then enzymes that make RNA) where to start making the spike mRNA. The SV40 promoter contains no genes, meaning that no part of it can be copied into RNA. In order for SV40 to act as an oncovirus, the whole virus must be present. It is not present during any part of the vaccine mRNA manufacturing process. Only the promoter is present, and that can be made without having any virus present.

51 posted on 06/08/2024 7:09:22 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: doc maverick
In the case of covid jabs, viral m-RNA is injected.

You get injected with virus mRNA every time you have a virus infection. That's true of any virus, not just SARS-CoV-2.

In the case of covid infections, the virus invades cells all over the body and forces them to make viral mRNA. There are 29 proteins in the SARS-CoV-2 virus, so the virus makes 29 different mRNAs. One of those, of course, is the spike mRNA. The virus forces infected cells to use those mRNAs to make virus proteins, including the spike protein (which all coronaviruses have). The virus also forces cells to make copies of its RNA genome. Finally, it forces cells to make new viruses until they become so full of virus that they burst. At that point, thousands of new viruses infect nearby cells and also enter the circulatory system where they can access cells all over the body. This process keeps repeating itself until the immune system can mount an adequate defense, a process that takes about two weeks.

What this means is that before your immune system finally "kicks in", you are literally a virus factory. You are making all of the mRNA, RNA genome, and proteins to assemble into new viruses.

An injection of a small amount of spike mRNA into the arm, where it is processed by local lymph nodes and destroyed within a couple of days, is minor. Catching a virus that infects billions of cells all over the body and forces them to make mRNA, proteins, the virus RNA genome, and new viruses before killing them is a serious issue. The damage from all of those cells being killed by the virus is as physical as cutting yourself. Imagine what happens when that damage occurs in the heart or another vital organ. The damage can be disabling and is potentially permanent.

52 posted on 06/08/2024 7:25:20 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: BipolarBob
Yeah, you can have my spike proteins, I’ll be okay. I had Covid, no big deal.

If you had Covid, then you had spike proteins saturating your body. The SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes Covid is literally covered with spike protein. And when you are infected, those spike protein coated viruses can get into the blood and reach every tissue in your body.

And you're going to be afraid of an injection which causes a few cells near the injection site to make a limited amount of spike protein? But you're not at all concerned about a virus that literally spreads spike protein all over your body? That's illogical.

53 posted on 06/08/2024 7:29:37 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: Gigantor
You’re talking old school vaccines. This concoction was different. You’re a Doctor??

True, this vaccine uses a new technology, but it still functions just like vaccines made using older technologies. It causes the immune system to respond as if a pathogen is present and then to make T-cells, B-cells, and antibodies to fight that pathogen. It's a lot safer than actually being exposed to an active pathogen that's using your body to make copies of itself.

And yes, I'm a doctor. With my education, I can actually design, make and test mRNA vaccines. It's not that difficult (for me, anyway).

54 posted on 06/08/2024 7:34:33 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
In order for SV40 to act as an oncovirus, the whole virus must be present. It is not present during any part of the vaccine mRNA manufacturing process. Only the promoter is present, and that can be made without having any virus present.

Residual DNA contaminants of SV40 have been found in the Jim Jones Jab.

https://osf.io/preprints/osf/mjc97

55 posted on 06/08/2024 1:03:24 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: exDemMom

Nope. It’s not a vaccine as I know it. You inject it and keep injecting it and have fun. Meanwhile, I’ll choose the even safer choice of avoiding that concoction. There’s plenty more for you, “Doctor.”


56 posted on 06/08/2024 11:25:57 PM PDT by Gigantor (Either the United States respects its Constitution, or there is no need for a United States.)
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To: Gigantor

You really do not understand what a vaccine is, do you?

A vaccine is a substance that causes your immune system to react and produce a targeted response as if the actual pathogen were present. This targeted response comes in the form of antigen-specific T-cells, B-cells, and antibodies. An antigen is any molecule that stimulates the immune system to make a targeted response.

The Covid vaccine does all this. Therefore, it is, by any scientific definition, a vaccine.

FYI, when you get infected with Covid-19 or any other virus, you make virus mRNA by the boatload. That is because viruses force your body to comply with the demands of the virus. Your own cells make virus mRNA, virus genomic RNA, and virus proteins that the virus needs to make new viruses. And then your cells fill up with thousands of viruses and burst open, releasing all of those new viruses to infect other cells in your body and force them to make virus mRNA, proteins, and new virus particles. Every cell that is infected by a virus dies, and the resulting damage can be quite extensive and even disabling. There are people right now who can no longer work because they caught Covid and suffered so much physical damage.

Rather than have active viruses in my body converting my cells into virus factories, I’m much rather get a simple injection of a single virus mRNA that lasts just long enough—a day or so—to alert the immune system that it has to fight against a new pathogen.


57 posted on 06/08/2024 11:45:42 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom

The ‘Covid Vaccines’ are not vaccines but bioweapons designed to cause injury and death, Dr. Death.


58 posted on 06/09/2024 9:12:43 PM PDT by Gigantor (Either the United States respects its Constitution, or there is no need for a United States.)
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To: Gigantor
The ‘Covid Vaccines’ are not vaccines but bioweapons designed to cause injury and death, Dr. Death.

Once again, a vaccine contains a substance called an "antigen" which stimulates the immune system into producing antigen-specific T-cells, B-cells, and antibodies.

There is ample evidence that the Covid vaccines do this. Part of the process of analyzing clinical trial data is to measure the production of antigen-specific antibodies in trial volunteers.

Here is a study published in one of the top scientific journals, Nature, which examines specifically antibody production following Covid vaccination: Predictors of long-term neutralizing antibody titers following COVID-19 vaccination by three vaccine types: the BOOST study.

Do you have a valid scientific source for your claim that people receiving Covid vaccine do not have a subsequent specific immune response? And no, Mercola, Sherry Tenpenny, RFK Jr., McCullough, or any of the others who have pushed antivax propaganda are not scientific sources. For the most part, a legitimate source is either catalogued at www.pubmed.gov or at the CDC.

59 posted on 06/10/2024 7:59:17 AM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom

The covid shots are not vaccines, “doctor.”


60 posted on 06/11/2024 5:31:53 AM PDT by Gigantor (Either the United States respects its Constitution, or there is no need for a United States.)
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