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Heartbreaking video shows terrified autistic teen, 19, being goaded, stripped naked and restrained by NINE cops while begging them to 'listen to me' - before smacking his head against wall and dying
UK Daily Mail ^ | 06/04/2024 | GERMANIA RODRIGUEZ POLEO

Posted on 06/04/2024 11:32:29 AM PDT by DFG

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To: dljordan

That‘s terrible to hear…🙁

It seems that the days when the police could honestly be called „your friend and helper“ are gone now.

Deeply discomforting indeed 🙁


81 posted on 06/05/2024 8:46:11 AM PDT by Menes
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To: Menes

That sounds like a very useful technology.


82 posted on 06/05/2024 8:49:58 AM PDT by Freee-dame ( )
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To: butterdezillion

Yes, this is true.

To an observer who is not familiar with autism, a meltdown in an autistic person may well look like a drug addict who is on a so-called horror trip.

I have never taken drugs myself, except for small amounts of alcohol, but I‘ve witnessed both meltdowns in autistic people and drug addicts losing their mental control…🙁 Similarities do exist…


83 posted on 06/05/2024 8:58:40 AM PDT by Menes
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To: AppyPappy

Hello Mr. AppyPappy, nice to see you again 😀

Yes, this is tragically true. Still I think that in more than a few cases, the people on Tiktok etc., whom you have mentioned, are not autistic, but are indeed suffering from the dangerous side effects of cannabis.

Cannabis is far more dangerous than its regular users will avow, I think.

And autistic people should abstain from using it in any case, since it seems that it impacts their brains even more negatively than it does the brains of neurotypicals.


84 posted on 06/05/2024 9:15:04 AM PDT by Menes
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To: butterdezillion

Would you go to your lawyer about a heart condition? Some matters require an expert and our police are not experts in mental health issues (and it is unreasonable to expect them to be). Do most people go crazy and beat their heads against a wall and die while in police custody? No... This man never should have been walking the streets and should have been institutionalized for his own protection.


85 posted on 06/05/2024 9:21:12 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: SkyDancer

You are right, I‘m afraid 🙁


86 posted on 06/05/2024 9:49:03 AM PDT by Menes
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To: DFG

“”threatened by nine guards””

NOT COPS, Guards.


87 posted on 06/05/2024 9:50:50 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News)
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To: MichaelRDanger

I believe he was at home when they came and got him.

You’re speaking to somebody who just spent 8 years tending my husband with dementia at home, where he got to see and express his love (mostly non-verbally because the words were lost quickly) to his family and we got to see and hug him every day, even though I had to keep him from eating everything he saw including bolts, pine cones, etc. I suppose you think he should have been institutionalized too.

There was a time when my husband wandered out the door while I was working on a project downstairs. Next thing I knew there was a knock at the door and somebody from the volunteer fire dept was asking me if there was anybody handicapped who lived at my house. My husband was one block away telling everybody he saw that he loved them. The police chief had called the ambulance to take him to the hospital for evaluation when one of the volunteers suggested they ask the people close-by if they knew Nathan.

We brought him back home as I cried, and the volunteer said his dad had dementia and they had gotten a door alarm after this happened to them the first time. From then on I kept doors locked unless I was within eyesight of my husband. But I’ve never forgotten the kindness and understanding of the volunteer, who understood what our family did and didn’t need.

Why couldn’t somebody have called this man’s parents?


88 posted on 06/05/2024 9:57:41 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

I worked for two years in a State Mental Hospital as a Rehabilitational Therapist. If he was institutionalized for his own protection he would still be alive. Because he was living in an environment which could not provide him the help he needed he is dead. Your husband did not have a history of self-destructive behaviors.

All over the country States have emptied their institutions and closed the doors and we are seeing the negative consequences.


89 posted on 06/05/2024 10:17:39 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: Menes
Hi Menes:

My oldest sister was an alcoholic who later suffered schizophrenia, and alcohol-induced dementia. Before she was even 30, she was in and out of the Alcohol Rehab Center that belonged to the State. She lost her job of 7 years, and was living on welfare, then eventually SSI (Social Security Disability).

When she was living on her own, she would drink every night at the corner bar, get drunk, then go knock on the door of a long-time family friend's home in the early hours of the morning, scaring her and her family. I'm sure all she wanted was a cup of coffee, and some conversation, but how many times do people's lives have to be disrupted to put up with that type of behavior? Inevitably the police would be called, and they'd take her to the Rehab Center where she would temporarily be admitted for evaluation.

When her condition worsened with age, she was permanently institutionalized, first in a State Psychiatric Center, and in her older years, in adult-assisted living homes. She would have never been able to survive on her own living in the community. I would regularly travel 3 hours away to visit her, take her out to lunch, and shopping, and then return her to the facility she was at. My sister's mental condition was such that from time-to-time she would become aggressive with other residents, and the facility would send her off to a hospital psych ward for a week's evaluation. Although she never said it, I believe my sister enjoyed that time away from the facility as she was catered to on the hospital ward.

This went on for many years. She lived to be 74, which was longer than anyone else in my family had lived at the time, and I truly believe, had she not been institutionalized all those years before, she never would have lived as long as she did.

90 posted on 06/05/2024 2:14:16 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Hello Mass55th,

I‘m terribly sorry to hear about the predicaments your unfortunate sister had to go through 🙁 Yes, alcohol is another drug which poses grave dangers, especially to people who have a greater proclivity to becoming addicted (it seems that some individuals are, due to their genetic makeup, more susceptible to an addiction, whereas others are more resilient.

It really is heartbreaking to see that mental hospitals have been closed. Maybe in those days, someone thought that the patients would be better left within the community.
For a few, this might have been feasible, yes, but outpatient treatment would still have necessitated frequent visits to the clinic (for regular medical assessments). But for many patients, it would have been possible.

Then there would have been those, who need to be kept under permanent supervision, but who are non-violent.

And the last, but smallest group, is indeed prone to violence, who have to be kept in confined conditions. Still, prison is not the right place for them. Prison guards are trained to deal with hardened, tough criminals, not with mental patients.

It seems to me that discontinuing the mental hospitals - and I guess that maintaining the hospitals would have been cheaper in the long run, and less deleterious to society, than letting them live unsupervised, and with so many coming into conflict with the law enforcers.

I think, as we say in German, politicians tried to place the bit and bridle on the horse‘s tail…


91 posted on 06/06/2024 5:30:15 AM PDT by Menes
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To: DFG

Totally unrelated, but definitely donut worthy....

Mississippi state trooper is fired after sending sex tape of her and another woman to colleagues

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/mississippi-trooper-fired-sex-tape-police-b2558708.html


92 posted on 06/07/2024 8:23:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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