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To: mbrfl
Which facts did I get wrong?

"how quickly DeSantis would have crumbled had he faced even one of the lawfare indictments Trump has had to face." DeSantis has stood up to giant corporations, leftist DAs, and all sorts of opponents. He has beaten them all and done massive good work for conservative principles and policies. He leads. Every day. DeSantis delivers.

"Anybody who thinks DeSantis has the smarts, the fortitude, or the leadership ability to have politically survived such an onslaught, is kidding himself." False. Again, e delivers conservative wins pretty much every day against all sorts of opponents.

"Trump is the only one who has even a remote chance of taking on the deep state."

Really? He didn't do it in his first term, but Governor DeSantis beats them regularly in Florida. That's why the state is growing. He's beaten Disney, the education establishment, and many others.

"Ron wanted to derail the MAGA movement"

Another falsehood. He's been one of President Trump's staunchest defenders and he's delivered for the people of his state, as a Congressman and as Governor. He's got a great policy record that he wanted to bring to the entire country.

He and his people didn't want the party, the conservative movement, or MAGA to be in the position it's in today, where a conviction -- however unwarranted -- curtails the nominee. But (as much as I hate to say it) we warned you this was coming.

"leading the movement back into the hands of the establishment" That's an absolute lie. For one thing, he lost donors by bucking the Establishment. For another, he's endorsed and supported goodm solid conservatives against Establishment candidates, many of whom had President Trump's endorsement. Trump is much cozier with the Establishment than DeSantis is.

A good example of that was Kentucky, where DeSantis supported Massie, a solid conservative, while Trump supported his opponent, a RINO. The same thing is happening in VA-5, where the DeSantis people are behind the chairmen of the Freedom Caucus, Rep. Bob Good, while Trump supports Good's "moderate" opponent.

Governor DeSantis's record is anything but that of an Establishment Republican.

"He tried to co-opt the movement in the same way the Tea Party movement was co-opted."

Simply false.

"He counted on Trump being taken out. DeSantis played Mr. Populist on the easy, inconsequential stuff and refused to take a stand against the things that matter most"

Again, his record says otherwise, and your claim here is simply false.

"his RINO backers"

Another falsehood. He has none of those. Those were Haley's people. (In fact, a couple of people defected from DeSantis to Haley because of his anti-Establishment policies and actions.

He took out Disney's special status and they caved. He protected kids from the trans lobby and by keeping oversexualized books out of school libraries. He has run a surplus. He fired woke DAs. Name an issue, Ron DeSantis is on the other side of it from the Establishment.

You've been sold a narrative and you bought it lock, stock, and barrel.

114 posted on 05/31/2024 10:15:43 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: TBP

>>”DeSantis has stood up to giant corporations, leftist DAs, and all sorts of opponents. He has beaten them all and done massive good work for conservative principles and policies. He leads. Every day. DeSantis delivers.”

You talk about DeSantis beating them all. But who has DeSantis faced? My local high school football team went undefeated, but look at who they played. You can invoke the “He took on Disney” mantra if you like, but the fact is he signed a bill handed to him by the Florida legislature.

The Reedy Creek repeal effort wasn’t even initiated by DeSantis. The effort started among lawmakers in the Florida legislature and when they passed the bill, DeSantis signed it.

Imagine if Donald Trump were dealing with that sort of legislature instead of Congress. Or better yet, imagine what DeSantis would have accomplished if he had been dealing with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer rather than a Republican super-majority. If you can’t tell the difference between being a red state governor and being president of the United States, then you don’t understand the world we live in.

And you respond to comments of mine like “Ron wanted to derail the MAGA movement” with “Simply False” or “That’s another falsehood”. Do you have proof that they’re false? Of course not. You have an opinion and I have a different one.
Did you not learn the difference between fact and opinion in elementary school? And when you respond to my reference about “DeSantis’s RINO backers” with “Another falsehood”, you’re either ignorant or simply lying.

The problem with your posts is that you reflexively respond to comments that upset you with pat answers like “That’s simply false” and either move on or if you bother to follow up such assertions, do so with facts that don’t make your case. Or you respond with answers like “[DeSantis has] been one of President Trump’s staunchest defenders” or “he’s delivered for the people of his state”, as if simply saying them makes them true. Those are campaign slogans, not informed responses.

A bot could do a better job of making its case than you.


117 posted on 05/31/2024 11:20:24 PM PDT by mbrfl
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