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Four-Four-Four: Based on Judge Merchan's Instructions, It will only take four jurors to convict Trump
Hotair ^ | 05/30/2024 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/30/2024 7:37:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The more time we have to look through Judge Juan Merchan's byzantine jury instructions in Donald Trump's "hush money" trial in Manhattan, the worse they look. The vague nature of the instructions has even led to disputes among legal analysts who have struggled to make sense of the case from the beginning. At Townhall, our colleague Matt Vespa has a good rundown of one of the most glaring problems with the instructions. The judge gave the jurors the unheard-of option of picking any one of three crimes that were "concealed" by the entry of "false business records" and said that all twelve of them didn't necessarily have to agree on which of the three crimes was committed. In other words, he appears to be opening the door to a conviction without a unanimous finding by the jury. Matt warns that we "should be prepared for a conviction."

The jury is deliberating, and we should be prepared for a conviction. That’s not to say there isn’t reasonable doubt all over the hush money trial involving Donald Trump, but this whole trial was a circus from the start so it’s unsurprising that its finish was more of a clown show. As Katie wrote this morning, none of this is normal. The judge’s instructions to the jury is aberrant, with some folks commenting on social media that these guidelines for the jury wouldn’t be legal in Zimbabwe. It will only take four jurors to convict Trump [emphasis mine]: 

According to legal experts, Merchan's standards for a conviction are abnormal and do not require jurors to reach a unanimous decision on the charges. Further, jurors don't have to determine what crime was committed. 

"Judge Merchan has ruled that the jury does not have to agree on what that crime is. The jury could split into three groups of four on which of the three crimes were being concealed and Merchan will still treat it as a unanimous verdict," George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley, who has been inside the courtroom, writes. "The jury has been given little substantive information on these crimes, and Merchan has denied a legal expert who could have shown that there was no federal election violation. This case should have been dismissed for lack of evidence or a cognizable crime." 

This is just wrong. Not being an attorney myself, you don't need to take my word for it. You can rely on the feedback from eminent Law Professor Jonathan Turley, who is quoted in the excerpt above. That didn't stop the Associated Press from rushing out and "fact-checking" the people criticizing the jury instructions. They found the claim that Merchan told the jury that they didn't need a unanimous finding of guilt to convict Trump is "false." They went through Olympic-level verbal gymnastics to declare that Merchan is still requiring all twelve jurors to find Trump guilty on any of the 34 charges. That's technically true, but what they seem to be willfully ignoring is the reality that they don't all need to find Trump guilty of the same crime.

Let's see if we can briefly sketch this out in terms that even we laypersons should be able to digest. In order to reach a guilty verdict, Merchan wants the jurors to first find that the fraudulent business records were created with the intent to conceal another crime. (Those would be the records of the payments made to Stormy Daniels.) Then, if they believe that to be true, they have to decide if Trump did so to cover up one or more of three things:

Both phases of this two-step dance are flawed. First of all, the falsifying business records claim consists of a set of alleged misdemeanors that were already past the statute of limitations. Therefore, Trump can't be tried or convicted of them. However, Merchan wants the jury to be allowed to "believe" that Trump is guilty of those charges. That's not how our system of justice works. The prosecution is claiming that Trump falsified the records and Trump is saying he didn't. That's how most criminal cases begin. The next step would be to charge him and convict him, but they can't do that because of the statute. You can't base your assumption of a second crime on the "belief" that the first crime took place. Like anyone else, Trump is innocent until proven guilty of those misdemeanors.

But let's say for a moment that you could, just for the sake of argument. Merchan wants to open the door to any of the jurors then finding that Trump broke one of the three laws I listed above. Those are three different crimes. In the hypothetical example that Merchan offered, four jurors could find Trump guilty of the first crime, four saying he committed the second, and four concluding that he committed the third. But in each case, the other eight jurors would not have voted to convict. You need all twelve to agree on innocence or guilt, so Trump would therefore not be found guilty on any of the three charges.

I've never spent a day in law school, but even I can follow along with Turley's analysis. And the question of needing a unanimous verdict is not in doubt. Just go back and look at the Supreme Court case of Ramos v. Louisiana. The court explicitly stated that all twelve jurors must reach the same conclusion. (Louisiana tried to get away with a 10-2 ruling in Ramos.) This fiasco in Manhattan has completely fallen apart, but I fear that Juan Merchan may still realize his dream of getting a conviction, at least until he is completely overturned on appeal.




TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: hushmoney; hushmoneytrial; judgemerchan; jury; merchan; seekandtroll; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Coronal

The underlying crime is not one of the counts he is charged with.


21 posted on 05/30/2024 8:04:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Coronal

What is your point?


22 posted on 05/30/2024 8:05:41 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: heartwood
The jury must find that the prosecution proved intent, mens rea. Plenty of New Yorkers believe Trump is mens rea personified, so they might skip the proof part, accepting it as axiomatic.

One possible theory of intent is that business records were falsified to conceal the crime of falsifying business records.

23 posted on 05/30/2024 8:06:17 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Soon he will take the jurors completely out of the equation and Judge that Trump is guilty of...ummm...something.

At what point do “we the people” intervene? Once we cross this line, there’s no going back.


24 posted on 05/30/2024 8:06:20 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: cuz1961

Right here.

https://nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf

Take a good look.


25 posted on 05/30/2024 8:06:33 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: dfwgator

This is literally “Throwing the book at President Trump”.

Any crime in that book you may feel like you think he may have thought of breaking, He’s GUILTY!


26 posted on 05/30/2024 8:07:22 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: Delta 21

Trump is guilty until proven executed.


27 posted on 05/30/2024 8:09:07 AM PDT by gitmo
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To: TexasGator

The point is that conviction on any charge requires a unanimous verdict of the full jury panel. Four jurors won’t be enough to get a conviction. The piece linked is misleading.


28 posted on 05/30/2024 8:10:23 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: SeekAndFind

I have read nothing about the jury being divided into groups of four to consider the possibilities. I thought Merchan simply meant if some of them think it was one crime, and some another, it’s fine as long as every one of them think there was some secondary crime. Could be three,could be seven, could overlap, four was a hypothetical example.


29 posted on 05/30/2024 8:10:25 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Coronal
Although you must conclude unanimously that the defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means, you need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were.
30 posted on 05/30/2024 8:11:25 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Could this corrupt judge have PDJT handcuffed and thrown in prison, in the event of a conviction?


31 posted on 05/30/2024 8:12:02 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Remove this guy from the bench


32 posted on 05/30/2024 8:14:35 AM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ... )
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To: heartwood

But they do have to unanimously agree that he committed some violation of the law.


33 posted on 05/30/2024 8:16:48 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: SeekAndFind
The judge gave the jurors the unheard-of option of picking any one of three crimes that were "concealed" by the entry of "false business records" and said that all twelve of them didn't necessarily have to agree on which of the three crimes was committed.

How is this not a Fifth Amendment violation to not know what charges are being alleged?

It's the prosecutor's job to choose what crime was committed, and to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it occurred. It's not up to the jury to choose "one from column A and one from column B" during deliberations.

How can one mount an effective defense when the charges aren't specified upon arraignment?

34 posted on 05/30/2024 8:20:59 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Coronal

They have to unanimously find that he falsified business records with the INTENT to conceal another crime, but they do not have to agree on what that other crime was, just that he INTENDED to do something unlawful.


35 posted on 05/30/2024 8:21:17 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Judge Merchan has ruled that the jury does not have to agree on what that crime is.”

Huhhhhh!!? As if they COULD!!!!

36 posted on 05/30/2024 8:27:13 AM PDT by SMARTY (In politics, stupidity is not a handicap. Napoleon Bonaparte I)
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To: Coronal
But they do have to unanimously agree that he committed some unnamed violation of the law.
37 posted on 05/30/2024 8:28:03 AM PDT by gitmo
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To: All

This is ludicrous. Law Professor Jonathan Turley writes from inside Merchan’s court:
<><>The jury has been given little substantive judicial assistance to consider,
<><>Merchan even denied the jury a legal expert’s input,
<><>that there was no federal election violation,
<><>that required dismissal for (a) lack of evidence, or, (b) lack of a recognizable crime.


38 posted on 05/30/2024 8:32:32 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: SeekAndFind

Where in the jury instructions is this stated?


39 posted on 05/30/2024 8:35:34 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t see a non-unanimous or especially a non-majority decision impressing the public. Even the libs will find it hard to glorify.


40 posted on 05/30/2024 8:45:09 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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