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1 posted on 05/29/2024 8:23:32 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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I’ve come to the conclusion that they KNOW this case is dead as soon as it hits the appeals court, so all they are trying for now is a get a conviction any way possible in the hope that it will do at least a little political damage to Trump and make it harder for him to campaign and travel in the meantime as technically he will be “convicted felon awaiting sentencing” until the appeals court throws it out.


38 posted on 05/29/2024 8:38:06 AM PDT by apillar
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40 posted on 05/29/2024 8:38:25 AM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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...After the federal election violation, Merchan says that the second crime is falsifying other documents. This creates a redundancy with the NY election violation on the falsifying documents. It allows the government to allege the falsification of documents as a felony and then allows such falsification to be also the unlawful means for certain documents. The third is the violation of tax laws.


42 posted on 05/29/2024 8:39:16 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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The point of any of these Kafka-on-meth trials is not to get a conviction that will survive appeal, it’s simply to get the conviction. This is merely point #195 in this trial that makes it an instant dismissal on the inevitable appeal, but that doesn’t matter.

But why, you may ask? Everything the Dummies have done to Trump has backfired spectactularly. As Rush always pointed out, they didn’t make Trump so they can’t break Trump. So what to do?

None of this is being done in a Dem attempt to take out Trump. It’s being done as a setup to attack EVERY establishment Repubican in a strategery to have THEM take out Trump. They have the media attack machine poised; the biggest crook/creep in the nation will give a presidenty-non-partisan national address about how the other party will SIDS democracy in the crib by running a >gasp< CONVICTED FELON, and anyone who has an (R) after their name is just as guilty.

Don’t be surprised at a 3 or 4-way election after the Repubicans self-immolate. And lots of monkey business at the election if it gets that far (which is why Biden is trying to ban live betting on the 2024 Election - the single biggest tell in 2020 that it was not on the up-and-up).


43 posted on 05/29/2024 8:39:44 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Calvinball.


47 posted on 05/29/2024 8:43:17 AM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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I could get my head around being found guilty on one of three possible crimes.

BUT the jury not agreeing on which one? No.

That would mean 2/3 of the jurors find him innocent on each of the crimes.

It also means the 12 jurors can each decide that the false entry was to hide pretty much any possible crime.

The law can be pretty obscure, but I do not think this is Constitutional.


48 posted on 05/29/2024 8:43:26 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Trump: Mother Theresa couldn’t beat those charges from this judge in this rigged trial.
It’s a disgrace!!!


49 posted on 05/29/2024 8:43:41 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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We still only need one to have a brain and vote no crime at all.


50 posted on 05/29/2024 8:43:47 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam only understands Death and Pain. Give it to them. )
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There is so much nonsense here, including that Trump didn’t make the entries.

Plus the entries were accurate.


54 posted on 05/29/2024 8:46:01 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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“Mother Theresa could not beat these charges,” Trump said to reporters in the court hallway just now, shortly after the jury was released from the courtroom to begin deliberating.

“The trial is rigged. The judge is so conflicted he can’t breathe.”

NY Post


56 posted on 05/29/2024 8:47:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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While CERTAIN to be overturned on appeal, Merchan is determined to get a conviction.


58 posted on 05/29/2024 8:48:07 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To convict, jurors must unanimously decide that Donald Trump falsified business records with the “intent” to cover up the hush money payout to Michael Cohen, and that the hush money was part of an illegal “conspiracy” to elect Trump in 2016 by what’s called “unlawful means,” the judge said.

But panelists can take a choose-your-own-adventure path to deciding what those “unlawful means” are.

Per the judge, jurors can consider whether the hush money payouts to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal breached campaign finance laws, were tax fraud, or whether business records were themselves falsified during that process — for example, whether Cohen fudged records to create his shell companies that he used for the payoffs.

But they don’t have to agree on what those “unlawful means” are.

NY Post


59 posted on 05/29/2024 8:49:19 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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There is a possibility — remote, given that it’s New York, but still a possibility — of an honest and intelligent juror, which would produce a hung jury.

If I had to bet, I’d bet on a conviction. Trump will eventually win on appeal, but the dems will get their headline.

My question has to do with the exact proceedings after the judge announces the (likely) guilty verdict. Can Trump appeal prior to sentencing, or can the judge move immediately to sentencing? If Trump appeals at that stage, can the judge deem him a flight risk and order him held, or send him to prison pending the appeal?

The democrat base and democrat media desperately want Trump to be imprisoned. And if they can have him imprisoned through the election, the lunatics will not flinch from that. At this point, there is no reason to expect the slightest trace of integrity from this corrupt judge.


61 posted on 05/29/2024 8:49:39 AM PDT by sphinx
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Judge Merchan told Trump and the lawyers, “You cannot leave the building. We need you to be able to get here quickly if we do receive a note.”

AP


68 posted on 05/29/2024 8:52:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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70 posted on 05/29/2024 8:53:35 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (Does anybody proofread anymore?)
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And Turley will still vote Democrat ...


71 posted on 05/29/2024 8:54:24 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ....)
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A group pro-Trump demonstrators across the street from the courthouse have been loudly heckling the news crews stationed there for the last 20 to 30 minutes, yelling things like “liars,” “screw you,” “f—k you,” and “f—k AOC.”

NBC “News”


76 posted on 05/29/2024 8:56:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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Merchan is a c*** sucking f*ggot. I hope he drops DEAD of a heart attack TODAY.

THIS TRIAL IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE 2024 STEAL FOR BIDEN. After the election is STOLEN for Biden, they will say "Trump lost because nobody wanted to vote for a CONVICTED FELON" This is the ONLY reason for this trial, to set the NARRATIVE FOR THE STEAL.

SCROTUS needs to step in IMMEDIATELY after the guilty verdict. This is a former president and REQUIRES an immediate REVERSAL from the highest court.

Joe Burden is BEYOND evil. Perhaps there is a video of Merchan boffing a little boy and he's being BLACKMAILED to OPENLY AND ARROGANTLY VIOLATE ALL ASPECTS OF JUDICIAL FAIRNESS.

This trial is an ACT OF WAR against MORE than half the country and here we sit typing. Trump's measured demeanor throughout all of this is the only thing keeping American patriots from going "HOT".

86 posted on 05/29/2024 9:01:33 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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How do you do this, if when questioning the jury, you ask how they rule on each count? 4/12 is not a conviction in any court of law.

Three counts of 4/12, does not deliver a 12/12 verdict. It delivers three 4/12
verdicts, which is extremely weak.


93 posted on 05/29/2024 9:05:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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FEDERAL election violations in a STATE court?

HUH?

106 posted on 05/29/2024 9:16:15 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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