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Congressional warmonger trots out ‘map of Russia’ to 'untie Ukraine's hands' for deep strikes
X ^ | 5/23/24 | Sputnik

Posted on 05/23/2024 5:11:15 AM PDT by hardspunned

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To: aklurker

“And it is my opinion that attacks on the motherland tend to unify and rally the people against the attacker, and there are many examples in history, 9/11, Pearl Harbor are two such American examples where an attack on the US unified a divided population in response.”

There is a difference. We had not attacked Japan.

Putin attacked Ukraine, unprovoked, and the people of Russia know it.

They can, as a result, just as well see it as Putin’s fault.


41 posted on 05/23/2024 8:54:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wilderness Conservative; logi_cal869

“Zeeper types will be hunted and gutted like deer when we get nuked.”

Right. Because if Russia nukes the USA most Americans will immediately blame Ukraine? LOL.


42 posted on 05/23/2024 8:55:54 AM PDT by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: MeganC

I would blame nato and you pukes for starting the war.


43 posted on 05/23/2024 9:41:30 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: PIF; All
You post this, and then you hypocrites claim NATO is a defensive alliance and Russia is paranoid and has nothing to fear.
44 posted on 05/23/2024 9:49:04 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: hardspunned

Also note that Ass-Clown McCaul opposed a Trump Wall, said it wasn’t needed, and did everything to stop it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/mike-mccaul-mexico-border-wall-235327


45 posted on 05/23/2024 9:57:57 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MeganC; All

” Right. Because if Russia nukes the USA most Americans will immediately blame Ukraine? LOL. “


This is their moronic plan to stampede people into giving unconditional support to the Regime, just like after 911.


46 posted on 05/23/2024 10:01:20 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

“I would blame nato and you pukes for starting the war.”

That’s up to you.

“Zeeper types will be hunted and gutted like deer”

I hunt and I gut deer and elk. The one bear that came after me? I gutted him too. Tanned his hide and sold him as a rug.

And I’m not even a regular hunter. Haven’t been out hunting in a couple years now. Had more important things to worry about.

Just saying that if you propose ‘hunting and gutting’ people that you might want to remember that there’s people out there who are much better at that kind of thing than either of us. And that’s who you’d be going up against.

Also, in the aftermath of a nuclear war are you really going to go on the warpath when people are more worried about basic survival, like you should be in such a situation?

Seriously, if things go south and you show up at my door asking me for help I’m not going to quiz you about your internet postings before I do what I can to help you.

Regards.


47 posted on 05/23/2024 10:24:06 AM PDT by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: MeganC

Ooooo… you are so SCARY. I shudder thinking of you. How soon will you be volunteering for the Ukrainian front?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xkzpx4qR3zY


48 posted on 05/23/2024 10:31:08 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: hardspunned

I don’t get the Russia love here. It is almost like some FReepers are the right-wing version of SJWs. The ridiculous “logic”, the hatred of their own nation, the fixation on justifying bad behavior, the focus on sexual deviancy...
It is almost like we have been infiltrated by leftists pretending to be right wingers to make reasonable people think we are a bunch of psychopathic mental midgets.


50 posted on 05/23/2024 11:49:39 AM PDT by Dat
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To: House Atreides

She sure is a pro at telling the most unbelievable tall tales!!
😅😂


51 posted on 05/23/2024 12:01:28 PM PDT by ANKE69 ("Russians aren't people" proudly posted by MeganC)
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To: nonliberal
The Russians were pushed into it. There was a deal in place but globohomo dispatched Boris Johnson (who should be executed) to kill the deal.

How long is this myth going to persist? Putin was not forced into it; he chose it. Zelensky had agreed to keep out of NATO before Russia invaded but Putin rejected this because he wanted some Ukrainian land and wanted to subjugate Ukraine like Belarus.

There was no agreement. There was an outline but there were major points that had not been resolved:

  1. Putin had not agree to withdraw from Donbas.
  2. Putin demanded that Ukraine limit its armed forces to 85,000 men, which would had left Ukraine defenseless against future Russian aggression.
  3. The western powers had not been consulted about, let alone agreed to, becoming guaranteeing powers.
  4. Russia demanded that it be one of the guaranteeing powers and that they could not act without unanimity. This would have given Russia veto power over the guarantees, making them useless.
Zelensky did not back out because of Boris Johnson's trip. He stated afterwards that he was still open to an agreement. Rather, what scuttled the talks was the revelations of the Bucha massacre. This turned Ukrainian opinion against any agreement. And it was Putin who first announced the break-off of negotiations. His excuse was that Ukraine was not a reliable partner because it had accused Russia of that massacre.
52 posted on 05/23/2024 12:11:44 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: MeganC

Yes.


53 posted on 05/23/2024 12:24:07 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: MeganC
No, I'll blame DC DS.

FISH ON!!!


54 posted on 05/23/2024 12:46:02 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MeganC

...AND you.


55 posted on 05/23/2024 12:47:46 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

I’m neither. But this will lower the chance that nukes are used. Putin will keep pressing until pushbacked in 3x the measure. Then he will quit. He won’t use nukes because if he does NATO will be forced to obliterate Moscow. Unless it is willing to sustain Russian aggression without fighting in Russia.

If Ukraine cannot take the fight to Russia because Russia threatens nukes then Russia has no limiting factor on conquests. Annex territory with out the threat to the Russian homeland that nurtures the ability to make war. Putin can do that all day and the decade long.

Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sherman’s March.

Does the US still know that winning a war means killing civilians and/or obliterating physical infrastructure on the enemies home turf?


56 posted on 05/23/2024 1:41:15 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety
He won’t use nukes because if he does NATO will be forced to obliterate Moscow.


57 posted on 05/23/2024 1:45:48 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: delta7

Drivel

The Russian GDP, even if you believe it is based presently on war production. Ordinary industry is on it’s ass, producing very little

China is in turmoil and probable depression with unemployment incalculable.

India? perhaps a real comer

BRCS is the reality of nothingness, an amalgamation of losers


58 posted on 05/24/2024 4:30:32 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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