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Live thread [05/21/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
Andrew Giuliani ^ | Sidebar Mod

Posted on 05/21/2024 6:22:49 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Fireworks and another Cohen meltdown yesterday.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: bragg; colangelo; hushmoneytrial; showtrial; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Sidebar Moderator
The counts in the indictment are actually identical, difference only being the dates.

Colangelo seem to be a skilled liar but maybe the jury is not as stupid as he thinks. He could try to "explain" that each count has something unique, in the hope the jury will be so blinded by TDS, in spite of the carbon copy similarities of the counts, that they would convict on some of the counts. Hope some jurors won't buy that argument.

181 posted on 05/21/2024 3:58:43 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Exactly. If Bragg failed to present evidence beyond reasonable doubt on just one of the carbon copy counts, the whole edifice collapses like a house of cards.


182 posted on 05/21/2024 5:37:06 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Yup,the very same junta that was prepared to use deadly force when raiding Mar-a-Lago.


183 posted on 05/22/2024 4:16:38 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Bingo.


184 posted on 05/22/2024 5:16:00 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Merchan has pushed closing arguments to next Tuesday, jury will take the case Tuesday or Wednesday. I think the legal issues are pretty straight forward, figure legal deliberations 2 or three days, then another couple of days to persuade any holdouts. Estimating - If they come up with a guilty verdict, that would be about June 5.

The next debate is scheduled for June 27. Unless an appeal is successful overturning the verdict in three weeks, Trump would be going into the debates as a “convicted felon”, which is the entire point of this.

A hung jury, which I think is likely, isn't as good as a “not guilty”, but still leaves the matter for discussion during the debate.

I think that a large group of lawyers and legal professors should sign a letter condemning the process, like the “Hunter Laptop” letter that Biden waived around during the 2020 debate.

Also, if there is a “guilty” ruling, Trump's team should file an emergency expedited appeal, pointing out the vast irregularities, and the significant political ramifications a guilty verdict has hanging over his head. A reversal, especially a strongly worded reversal, would go a long way to mitigate a guilty verdict.

185 posted on 05/22/2024 7:32:27 AM PDT by Fido969 (Y of ma)
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To: Fido969
think that a large group of lawyers and legal professors should sign a letter condemning the process, like the “Hunter Laptop” letter that Biden waived around during the 2020 debate.
Also, if there is a “guilty” ruling, Trump's team should file an emergency expedited appeal, pointing out the vast irregularities, and the significant political ramifications a guilty verdict has hanging over his head. A reversal, especially a strongly worded reversal, would go a long way to mitigate a guilty verdict.

Agree. I wish Eileen Cannon was overseeing. Instead, if one of the counts comes back guilty from the jury, we may get a majority of NY kangaroos on the appeal. But one NY appeals court reduced the bail needed in the Letitia goat f***.

186 posted on 05/22/2024 10:40:00 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Only if assuming the Trump Deranged Manhattan jury doesn’t convict on some counts and not on others.
Merchan will gladly jail Trump on one conviction out of 34 counts while Bragg leisurely decides about retrying the other 33.
No?
Why No?


187 posted on 05/22/2024 12:08:05 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: desertsolitaire

Trump deranged or not, I just don’t see that as a likely scenario. ‘Sides, jailing Trump will guarantee him a win in Nov.


188 posted on 05/22/2024 12:27:04 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: desertsolitaire

What I see is a jury likely riven with disagreements and essentially too dysfunctional to come to any agreement. I could be wrong, but all bets are off after Cohen’s disastrous testimony blew the prosecution’s case out of the water. For perspective, two weeks ago, I was in the 100% chance of conviction.


189 posted on 05/22/2024 12:41:05 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Fido969

Oh God I thought it was over for today - that we would get the verdict. Another week of liberals crowing about the trial.


190 posted on 05/22/2024 1:23:47 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Sidebar Moderator

This thread will be one for the history books...


191 posted on 05/22/2024 7:57:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Watching Judge Merchan in action is like watching a corrupt bought umpire throw a game...)
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To: mware
Wonder when they will tell us what he has been charged with.?

Probably when some focus group finds one that has a chance to stick it to Trump.

192 posted on 05/22/2024 7:59:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (Watching Judge Merchan in action is like watching a corrupt bought umpire throw a game...)
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To: GOPJ

For sure!


193 posted on 05/22/2024 9:05:33 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: GOPJ

We don’t need no stinkin’ crime! He’s Orange Man Bad! ;-)


194 posted on 05/22/2024 9:09:04 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: adorno

I don’t know folks I’ve been reading on X the judge already instructed the court police to be ready to take Trump in case he’s convicted into a prison cell. They’re preparing all the logistics that need to be taken care of to put him in jail. What effing country are we living in? Please tell me if this is America because I’m beginning to feel like i’m living in Brazil, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, Germany in 1935, what the hell is going on with this nation? Something is about to go boom! Now you know why dementia FJB gave that commencement speech defending democracy yesterday in our own soil. He let the cat out of the bag! He preparing our woke military for uprising against its citizens in our nation. Something is coming over the horizon and it’s not good. If Trump is put behind retaining bars he will be murdered by a collusion of all three branches…FBI DOJ and CIA! Bank on it!


195 posted on 05/28/2024 9:32:22 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: GOPJ

There had been speculation that the judge will tell us all when he does his summation.


196 posted on 05/28/2024 9:34:46 AM PDT by mware
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To: RoseofTexas
What effing country are we living in? Please tell me if this is America because I’m beginning to feel like i’m living in Brazil, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, Germany in 1935, what the hell is going on with this nation? Something is about to go boom! Now you know why dementia FJB gave that commencement speech defending democracy yesterday in our own soil. He let the cat out of the bag! He preparing our woke military for uprising against its citizens in our nation. Something is coming over the horizon and it’s not good.

These are scary times...

197 posted on 05/28/2024 11:42:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deplorables welcome Bronx "clowns" to the family. )
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