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To: USA-FRANCE

It is pretty easy to notice no one is asking us to attack Iran, while our troops might be the only way Ukraine can “win”.

Nothing contradictory in noting Russia is evil AND that Russia is likely to win no matter what we do. Time to work on a negotiated settlement because POLITICS ISN’T ABOUT MORALITY, BUT WHAT IS POSSIBLE.


7 posted on 05/19/2024 3:00:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers
It is pretty easy to notice no one is asking us to attack Iran, while our troops might be the only way Ukraine can “win”.

You mean the only way Ukraine can win is if we do it for them.

36 posted on 05/19/2024 4:10:00 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Mr Rogers

“Nothing contradictory in noting Russia is evil AND that Russia is likely to win no matter what we do.”

If we engaged with US troops and air power and fought a real war, the war would be over quickly. The Russian logistic line to Ukraine is very long and can only exist if no serious power is attacking it. OTOH, if we were to fight a real war, would go nuclear rather quickly as soon as we took out Russia’s logistics. So I would be hesitant to say Russia is likely to win no matter what we do.

But we would be fighting a desperately weak but fully nuclear power and the attack on logistics would be seen as existential for the current regime in Russia. I don’t like where that goes.


62 posted on 05/19/2024 5:39:50 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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