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To: SJackson
This is a bit of revisionist history.

Truth is, there was a window of opportunity to solve the Israeli - Palestinian conflict in the wake of the fall of the Soviet Union and Communism.

GHW Bush was actually working with the Israeli leadership for building a base to accomplish this.

The PLO had had been thrashed and kicked out of Lebanon and Yasser Arafat and his PLO fighters were falling apart in Tunis.

For once, the Israelis had comparatively rational and reasonable Palestinians to work with.

The Rabin generation of Israeli leaders were largely military officers who had seen the worst of war. They were angered and disgusted by the hot heads and fanatics on both sides.

They wanted peace

Then came Bill and Hilary Clinton -1960s Radicals who were slobbering , star struck Yasser Arafat groupies

The Clinton's froze out any reasonable Palestinians to become Partners for Peace and insisted on their beloved Yasser Arafat
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Rabin got rolled and signed an agreement formalizing Yasser Arafat as the de facto leadership of the Palestinians and invited the beleaguered PLO fighters into Israel itself.

The PLO came rolling into Israel like a conquering army , shooting AK-47s and began their reign of terror. They established a corrupt, criminal mafia style “government” that exists to this day. They conscripted children just out of grade school and began training them in terrorism and para military operations. They established schools that became indoctrination centers for Jew hatred and the destruction of Israel.

The end result is the insanity in Gaza.

The Israelis complained to the Clintons who only encouraged Yasser Arafat and back stabbed Israel.

The resulting chaos and PLO violence gave rise to Netanyahu who was effective in countering Arafat. Clinton tried to intervene for Shimon Peres in 1996 but failed and Netanyahu became PM.

Clinton then sent Democrat operative Stanley Greenberg to Israel to successfully organize Democrat funded opposition to Netanyhau and interfere with internal Israeli affairs . The Clinton's Greenberg led team succeeded in ousting Netanyahu and replacing him with the disaster that was Ehud Barak. Barak was a Clinton aligned Leftist who was willing to sell out Israel to the PLO. But George Bush beat Al Gore and Barak lost influence so Arafat started the Second Intifada.

After Arafat finally died of AIDs and Ariel Sharon handed the Gaza over to the PLO, Hamas seized power in Gaza because the PLO was too moderate.

It all comes back to Bill and Hillary Clinton, two of the most profoundly malignant and destructive politicians in American history.

The mid 1990s were a historic chance for peace in the Middle East and Bill and Hillary Clinton ruined that chance by insisting their hero Yasser Arafat be the one put in power which directly led to the Hamas disaster we see today.

It didn't have to be this way and we have the Clintons to blame.

14 posted on 05/16/2024 9:11:50 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1
GHW Bush was actually working with the Israeli leadership for building a base to accomplish this...The PLO had had been thrashed and kicked out of Lebanon and Yasser Arafat and his PLO fighters were falling apart in Tunis.

Perhaps. However the PLO left about a quarter of their forces behind in Lebanon, civilians. Can't imagine we didn't know. And the US refused to allow Israel to kill Arafat. Somewhere on the web, if I can find it I'll send a link, you can find an interview with an Israeli sniper who as late as boarding the ship for Libya had Arafat in his sights, awaiting US authorization to pull the trigger. Later when the peace loving Arafat returned the rear of his car was said to be nearly touching the pavement, suspected arms filling the trunk. We're making the same mistake today pushing Israel to leave Hamas leadership intact along with an unknown number of troops who will become civilians again. For awhile. History may not repeat itself, but sometimes it does.

20 posted on 05/16/2024 10:22:51 AM PDT by SJackson (There is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them Churchill)
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To: rdcbn1
Operation Salt Fish - Conclusion
U.S. Marines of the 32d Marine Amphibious Unit and legionnaires of the 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment form a joint security guard during the evacuation of the PLO from Beirut, Lebanon. Arafat was in the sights of at least five snipers at that point. The commander of the team radioed Raful Eitan and sought permission. Eitan delayed giving a response. The commander reiterated his request, warning Eitan that Arafat was going inside and would be out of their sight within seconds. Eitan held off for as long as he could, then finally replied:
21 posted on 05/16/2024 10:26:47 AM PDT by SJackson (There is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them Churchill)
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To: rdcbn1
Israel's cat-and-mouse game with Yasser Arafat

For decades, Israel tried unsuccessfully to take down the leader of the PLO; one time, Arafat was in the sights of 5 snipers, but they couldn't take the shot because of a promise Begin made to Reagan; another time, IDF chief Eitan himself took a fighter plane to Beirut and dropped bombs on an office building shortly before Arafat entered it.

22 posted on 05/16/2024 10:31:12 AM PDT by SJackson (There is only one thing worse than fighting with allies, and that is fighting without them Churchill)
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