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A wargame simulated a 2nd Trump presidency. It concluded NATO would collapse.
Business Insider ^ | May 12, 2024 | Michael Peck

Posted on 05/13/2024 7:16:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: Olog-hai

“Anti American Aggression”?
What does that even mean?
The simple fact is they don’t want America to dictate the use of American military assets.
FINE! Let them do it themselves.
We have bailed them out, before. Maybe we can do it again...


21 posted on 05/13/2024 7:35:23 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: ganeemead

“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory. “The epidemic of collapse has spilled over to Russia itself,” he said, referring to separatist movements such as those in Chechnya.

22 posted on 05/13/2024 7:38:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

You don’t have to sell me I’m already voting for the guy.


23 posted on 05/13/2024 7:38:40 PM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: PubliusMM

Let them achieve their dream of a pan-EU military and you’ll see what it means.

We never “bailed them out”. They declared war on us and we defeated them. What happened was the left in the USA rebuilt them in the image of the USSR. That is not an entity you want to grant self-control to—and Trump never, ever proposed such a thing, frankly, but for them to pay to what they explicitly agreed to instead of shirking their responsibilities.


24 posted on 05/13/2024 7:39:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Believe it or not, the British may actually be an enemy of the US Republic.


25 posted on 05/13/2024 7:41:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: MinorityRepublican

Totally rational.

He has blown $200billion in going on 2 1/2 years in Ukraine.
GDP $2trillion.

He is borrowing at 16%.

War game who maxes out the credit card first, him or my wife.


26 posted on 05/13/2024 7:44:30 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: StrictConstructionist

“The United States of America should not be paying to defend other countries.”

NATO existed so that the U.S. military could start fighting the Warsaw Pact at the inter-German border and not have to start back at Normandy like in 1944.


27 posted on 05/13/2024 7:44:41 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: Olog-hai

We disagree on the outcome, obviously.
We bailed out the European community in WWI and WWII. We failed (the lefitsts succeeded) in rebuilding them as truly freedom based societies.
I never submitted the DJT proposed anything but paying their own way for the current model.
I don’t agree that the current model is the right one.


28 posted on 05/13/2024 7:44:48 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: PubliusMM
We bailed out the European community in WWI and WWII. We failed (the lefitsts succeeded) in rebuilding them as truly freedom based societies.

Not looking too good here in USA either.

29 posted on 05/13/2024 7:52:01 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t think NATO is going anywhere short term. Europe
isn’t very relaxed right now with what is taking place in
the East.

If the US were to drop out, Europe would need to keep what
remained as well prepared as it could.

Anything else is end game fatal.


30 posted on 05/13/2024 7:52:14 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wow. By the time the election comes, try to imagine if you can, the unhinged “predictions” we’re gonna be treated to.

Like...The AP is reporting that the CIA has irrefutable evidence, if elected Trump will start his reshaping of America by nuking New York, LA and Chicago. Next, he will begin rounding up and imprisoning elected Democrats. Trump vows there will never be another Democrat President. Trump is eager to begin to emulate his hero, Castro, and plans to rule with dictatorial power until his death. Trump will demand all Americans bow down in his presence.


31 posted on 05/13/2024 7:52:18 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: PubliusMM

Twice they (and it was the same country at the center of what we call the “axis”) declared war on us and twice we defeated them; and we had the ill fortune of having leftist presidents both times, who regrew them into the same malicious entity but worse each time.

What happened with NATO is that Clinton handed “them” control back in the 1990s. Remember that? He actually put US troops under “their” command to divide up the Balkans for “them”. Since then “they” had the notion that they could dictate to the USA . . . and then Trump came along . . .


32 posted on 05/13/2024 7:53:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Was the UN ejected, too?


33 posted on 05/13/2024 7:55:58 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeh, that’s kind of the plan. 😆


34 posted on 05/13/2024 7:58:31 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“a recent wargame found”

GIGO. They may as well said “Ouija board”.


35 posted on 05/13/2024 8:03:23 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Climate “scientists” programmed this computer war game.

Start with the desired outcome and code it back to the beginning.


36 posted on 05/13/2024 8:03:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: Olog-hai

fwiw it is the same across the board.

5% of every one of our healthcare bills is R & D as Europe no longer contributes jack.

It is the same with innovation in general.

This is despite the VAT tax which see’s them taking on avg twice as much GDP in taxes vs us. In spite as much as the underlying cause of little to no innovation Europe.


37 posted on 05/13/2024 8:03:53 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Baloney


38 posted on 05/13/2024 8:09:33 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Why would a country choose to shoulder 100% of its own defense, rather than contribute its fair percentage to NATO?

let’s see, you pay MORE for defense and lose the commitment of America to defend you.

Not real likely.


39 posted on 05/13/2024 8:10:02 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Oh. A Game. Well that settles it then.

Last time Trump did something I have watched every single American president even including Ronaldus Magnus try and fail to achieve. He actually got the Yurps to spend more on Defense and start getting serious about providing for their own Defense instead of just relying on Uncle Sugar to pay for everything for them. Seems to me more Trump is just what NATO needs.


40 posted on 05/13/2024 8:13:00 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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