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To: Skywise

They can keep them, I have no problem withh that. But facts are stubborn things. They WERE traitors against the US.


90 posted on 05/10/2024 1:51:55 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER ngressman is.GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: cowboyusa
Um - you are wrong here.

Salmon Chase, the CJ of the USSC, and an abolitionist and former member of Lincoln's cabinet (so no friend of the South) recommended against prosecutions for treason and warned that there was no legal authority under the Constitution and laws at the time. The reason for this is that citizens were "citizens of the several states" and not of an entity called "the United States." That came much later.

Even Jeff Davis was never prosecuted. They kept him imprisoned for awhile but eventually let him go, because they couldn't make a charge stick.

Several New England states had attempted to secede, unsuccessfully, some time before, but with no penalty or charges.

95 posted on 05/10/2024 2:48:48 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: cowboyusa
They can keep them, I have no problem withh that. But facts are stubborn things. They WERE traitors against the US.

The fact is they were not and you throw the term "traitor" and "treason" around without having the slightest clue what the actual meaning is. Treason is the only crime specifically defined in the constitution. If you read it, the relevant part says "making war against them". "Them" is plural. It means the states. It does not mean the federal government. The one who made war against them is Lincoln. he is the actual traitor to the US Constitution.

112 posted on 05/11/2024 5:40:03 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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