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To: FLT-bird; LonePalm
You clarified many points that I left implied. As you affirm, the industrial revolution was changing Western Civilization sweepingly... As for Cuba, Yankee colonialization somewhat preserved slavery in the form of super cheap labor (sugar plantations), but that's another story.

In the early 50s, at about age 12, I moved from Virginia to a small town in Florida long infamous for racism and a race war. I was beaten up in the town square in front of the fire station, plenty of onlookers, as a ' n----er lover'. Some years later I went to college in Boston where I was treated a bit as the opposite. I have lived both sides of that dustup and I paid my dues.

I choose to avoid the 'arguments' and try to stick to the objective truths - as much as possible.

198 posted on 05/11/2024 7:31:10 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland; FLT-bird
I am torn over this issue. My family were southerners from before the American Revolution.

I am a firm believer in states rights as it was the states that created the federal government rather than the reverse.

On the other hand, I am absolutely and unalterably opposed to slavery in all its forms. Whether chattel, penal, or mental, slavery is utterly evil.

James Madison wrote, “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.”

I think that Mr. Madison would be dismayed to see how his great work, the US Constitution has been misused and misinterpreted.

I think we need a Congress of the States to reign in the Federal Government. The implied powers of the Federal government needs to be sharply curtailed.

SpyNavy

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

201 posted on 05/11/2024 9:16:39 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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