[PGR88]

Let both sides stop fighting. If the Russians left Ukraine, the fighting would be over.

There's actually 3 parties directly involved in this fight.

Let's not pretend there are not.

[Petrosius]

There's actually 3 parties directly involved in this fight.

But only one issue: Ukrainian independence. Contrary to the paranoia of some Russian sycophants, no one in the west is eager for a war with Russia. This war was not provoked by the west; it was started by Putin's ambition to rebuild the old Russian empire.