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Turmoil in Georgia Could Draw in Russia
Foreign Policy ^ | May 3, 2024 | Luke Coffey

Posted on 05/03/2024 1:32:05 PM PDT by Loyalist

In recent days, hundreds of thousands of Georgians have taken to the streets of their country’s capital, Tbilisi, to protest a controversial draft law being debated in the Georgian Parliament. The government, led by the Georgian Dream party, calls the draft law the “Transparency of Foreign Influence” bill. Opponents refer to it as the “Russian law” because it mirrors a Kremlin law designed to silence, stifle, and shut down political opposition. In the latest escalation overnight, Georgian police used water cannon, tear gas, and rubber bullets to break up continuing protests against the law.

If passed, the law would require all nongovernmental organizations to declare if they receive a certain amount of their funding from abroad. Opponents of the bill argue that these measures will weaken civil society and threaten freedom of speech. If the experience in Russia is anything to go by, their concerns are well founded.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: georgia; georgiaonmymind; riots; russiancolonialism; ruzzia; ruzzians
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To: DesertRhino

What the hell are you making up?
You know zero about Georgia.
Maybe Russia is just a $hit show.


41 posted on 05/03/2024 4:32:15 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Loyalist
Anybody seen Victoria Nuland lately?
42 posted on 05/03/2024 4:34:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; Williams
and since Samantha Power is invested in work in Georgia under the Biden administration

We must never forget that Samantha Power, color revolution queen, is married to the execrable globalist totalitarian scumbag Cass Sunstein.

43 posted on 05/03/2024 4:34:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Rudy to avenge the laptop!)
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To: BobL
The NGOs belong in Gulags, given all of the countries they wrecked.

As to Freedom, let me know when the Jan 6th protesters get released.


44 posted on 05/03/2024 4:37:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Rudy to avenge the laptop!)
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To: TonyinLA

+1


45 posted on 05/03/2024 5:17:39 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Such emotional response

Well, he's a zeeper and they skew histrionic... so

46 posted on 05/03/2024 5:18:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Loyalist

“If passed, the law would require all nongovernmental organizations to declare if they receive a certain amount of their funding from abroad”

What’s wrong with that?


47 posted on 05/03/2024 5:23:16 PM PDT by dljordan (What do you think?)
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To: Williams

“You are a kook.”

Me too.


48 posted on 05/03/2024 5:24:13 PM PDT by dljordan (What do you think?)
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To: TonyinLA

Why has the State Department been meddling in and pressuring Georgia? From Wikipedia.

Their Prime Minister’s positions:

“Kobakhidze has made claims that the West is trying to push Georgia into the Russo-Ukrainian War and open a “second front” of war on the Georgian territory; his rhetoric has been described as “anti-European” and “anti-American”.[3][4][5] In February 2024, when the State Security Service of Georgia announced discovery of Ukrainian explosives on Georgian territory, Kobakhidze repeated his claims that Georgia is being dragged into war: “This once again confirms what, in principle, the high-ranking officials of the Ukrainian government openly said that they wanted and probably still want: a second front in our country”.[43]”


49 posted on 05/03/2024 5:43:18 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: BobL
The NGOs belong in Gulags, given all of the countries they wrecked.

Did you buy all that hate, or were you born with it?

50 posted on 05/03/2024 5:49:12 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Williams
Maybe Russia is just a $hit show.

Georgia, Michigan, New York, California... The list of your globohomo communist shit shows is endless.

51 posted on 05/03/2024 6:02:46 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Are you a wack job? “MY globohomo....”?

Listen grandpa, no one needs to tolerate idiots like you making stuff up just because you feel like it.

And the fact you start telling other people they are globohomos is reflective of the fact you don’t know anything.


52 posted on 05/03/2024 6:08:59 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Ok, that was not exactly the intelligent response I was actually asking for. I asked why you would oppose any nation requiring their citizens to declare financial support for organizations doing things inside their country. And who else but us do you think is flooding Georgia with NGOs and cash besides us?

I know plenty about Georgia. Even more than most you’ll meet in your day.

I think maybe you aren’t as bright as I hoped. Have a nice night simpleton.


53 posted on 05/03/2024 6:22:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Williams
You feigning ignorance about the CIA and George Soros and his NGOs have been doing for two decades is truly laughable>

https://frontierweekly.com/articles/vol-54/54-40/54-40-US%20staged%20a%20Coup%20in%20Ukraine.html

Michael McFaul—US Ambassador to Russia, 2012–2014—wrote an op-ed in WaPo in 2004 where he asked, “Did Americans meddle in the internal affairs of Ukraine?” Then he answered it, “Yes.”

Why did McFaul write the article? Because in 2004, Soros and other NGOs fomented the Orange Revolution in Ukraine. Basically, the election was won by a pro-Russia guy. So people protested and demanded a new election. Then, a month later, the pro-US guy won the new election with 52% of the votes. Democracy, America-style.

BTW, that guy—Yanukovych—who lost the election in 2004 … ran again in 2010 and won fair and square. ‘That’s why we had Euromaidan’.

If one goes back in history, one will see that the CIA worked with Neo-Nazis(!!) and ultra-nationalists in Ukraine for decades, starting right after World War II. Declassified CIA documents describe Project Aerodynamic in the 1950s and ’60s that recruited Ukrainian nationalists—including Nazis and war criminals such as Mykola Lebed who was accused of killing tens of thousands of Poles and Jews—to work against the USSR. So, now hopefully one can clearly see the patterns and that Ukraine is really of special importance to the U.S. But why? Well, has anyone heard of Brzezinski, the geopolitical expert who influenced US foreign policy for 40 years? He came up with the idea of Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the USSR, created Al Qaeda, and then repeated the same strategy of using Islamic terrorists in the Balkans, the Caucasus, Libya and Syria. Brzezinski explained in his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard that “Ukraine is a geopolitical pivot. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.” He also said that Ukraine must be brought into NATO by 2010.

In 2013, Soros, NED and other NGO’s riled up some ordinary people in Kyiv. (BTW, outside Kiev, there were no protests. In many parts of Ukraine, people are very pro-Russia and were happy with President Yanukovych).

Then Neo-Nazi thugs acted as provocateurs and attacked the police with metals, chains, fire-bombs, guns and grenades.

The Ukrainian government’s links to Neo-Nazis are never openly admitted in the US but this is the reason why Congress refused to pass a bill that banned funding of Neo-Nazi groups!

54 posted on 05/03/2024 6:30:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: DesertRhino

You want me to oppose or defend a law proposed in Georgia and protested by some of its citizens?

No thanks.

I’m responding to people here going on about globohomos, Soros, the CIA, Nuland, and every other pro Russia fantasy which they took straight from their buttholes - just because they don’t like anyone protesting a law which might benefit Russia.

Then they further enjoy their fantasies by telling me I support globohomos, and only watch CNN.

IOW, ignorant emotional fools.


55 posted on 05/03/2024 6:47:26 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: TonyinLA; Williams; Chad C. Mulligan; BobL; DesertRhino; McGruff; kiryandil; All

“...the CIA is fomenting a color revolution in Georgia hoping to get a NATO friendly government installed...”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Here is my answer to TonyinLA and some others here on this thread who proactively commented on our common point of discussion... :

To automatically blame CIA while giving a pass on what the FSB/KGB does in the world, especially against American interests... shows you are not on America’s side.

You seem to be supporting the Kremlin deep state Elite, and biased in their favor. I would recommend that you (at least) support the Russian people instead. They live in a state of fear, unable to utter a single word against their own government. If they do, it’s 15 years go Gulag... or... they end up poisoned, or... they may accidentally fall out of a window from the 7th floor...

The elections in Russia are rigged to such a vast degree that it’s outright comical. Anyhow, all the true political opponents to Putin, like Navalny... they have all been assassinated. So who cares about elections in Russia, when opponents are dead.

GEORGIA:
You seem to care about a hypothetical fantasy that the West could one day bring in anti-missiles to Georgia so they can attempt to protect themselves from another Russian invasion... while you stay silent on the fact the RUSSIA has ALREADY violated the treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons!

Indeed, Russia has shipped offensive nuclear missiles to Belarus and to Kaliningrad - right inside Europe itself for God’s sake! It’s a grotesque violation of international law, it’s an obvious existential threat for Europe. You stay silent that too...

Also... you seem to have forgotten that Russia has stolen 20% of Georgia’s sovereign territory in 2008! You give a pass on that as well...

The Kremlin Elite acts like a Big Government, anti-christian cult heavily inspired by Sovietism and Stalinism. They steal, plunder and kill, just like ANTIFA does, except that it’s done on a Government level and on a truly large scale... with taxpayers money.

Do I have to remind you that the only friends Russia has are: North Korea, IRAN, China. They are all either extreme communist nations or ultra Islamic. And yes, they form an Alliance... surprise!

Well.. Russia has some other friends too... : Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Belarus... Oh... all communists as well... what a shock...

Good night, and please repeat after me:
Let’s Make America Great Again!


56 posted on 05/03/2024 7:38:39 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Williams

Wow. Sure rang the bell on your Zeeperdong.


57 posted on 05/03/2024 8:00:54 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: USA-FRANCE
To automatically blame CIA while giving a pass on what the FSB/KGB does in the world, especially against American interests... shows you are not on America’s side.

Shut it, froggie.

Do us all a favor and volunteer for "Little Napoleon" Macron's expedition into The Ukraine.

58 posted on 05/03/2024 8:31:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Kristi Noem because she's an effective woman!)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; BobL

Did you buy all that naivety, or were you born with it, Chad?


59 posted on 05/03/2024 8:32:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (Democrat Party operatives! Attack Kristi Noem because she's an effective woman!)
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To: AndyJackson

Just sick of people making up nonsense and insulting others who point out the absurdity.

Also tired of supposed “patriots” who seem to forget on a regular basis, which country they call home.

Don’t give a rats rear what the CIA does in friggin Georgia, nor do I have a need to oppose protestors in that country.


60 posted on 05/03/2024 9:14:58 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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