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To: hardspunned

We have seen this before. The Jap Zero was a superior maneucering aircraft even at the end of the war. But the Hellcat cleaned them out not because they were better at dog-fighting [they weren’t] but because of superior fire power and much better sruvivabiity. Hellcats came back from battle all shot up, but survived. Zeros didn’t come back.


2 posted on 05/01/2024 7:22:09 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Same goes with the German Tiger tank vs. the Soviet T-34 tank. The Tiger was more powerful. It was also more expensive and less reliable.

In some actions only 1/3 of the Tigers present were combat-ready. Tough to win a war when most of your tanks are in the shop.


16 posted on 05/01/2024 7:40:38 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: AndyJackson
"..the Hellcat cleaned them out not because they were better at dog-fighting.."

Just to adjust your history presentation, the Hellcat (and the Corsair) had over twice the horsepower, excellent high-speed maneuverability, armor, self-sealing tanks, and excellent pilots coming out of our superior training system.

The Zero had excellent range and low-speed maneuverability, exploded when hit, and experienced heavy ailerons above 250 knots in a dive.

Cold meat for the Hellcats and Corsairs as long as they weren't sucked into a slow-speed, maneuvering fight.

See: Marianas Turkey Shoot and VM-214 Black Sheep.

45 posted on 05/01/2024 8:35:02 AM PDT by Chainmail (You can vote your way into Socialism - but you will have to shoot your way out.)
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To: AndyJackson

Am not seeing your argument (which is a winner, btw) in the point Gaetz was making.


52 posted on 05/01/2024 8:52:24 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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