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To: thefactor
Why do I get the feeling we will come to find out police have have had this guy under surveillance, knew his routine, and could have picked him up outside his home anytime.

This is what the poster stated above. They had a "Feeling", there were speculating.

And they're likely correct. IF they did have the suspect under surveillance and could have bagged him by surprise in some parking lot after exiting his vehicle, it would likely have resulted in NO deaths.

As it is, there are dead cops all over the places because the suspect obviously have access to adequate firepower, ammo, cover etc etc...

60 posted on 04/29/2024 7:51:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

You’re missing a huge point here. You don’t have known, wanted felons “under surveillance.” You don’t follow them around, you arrest them. They have a warrant signed by a judge. You put them in cuffs, you don’t wait for them to commit more crime. People are throwing around terms here that do not apply.


63 posted on 04/29/2024 8:08:44 PM PDT by thefactor
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As this story develops, it appears to me the most critical factor MAY have been that the original suspect had backup.

This may have been updated / corrected, but my present understanding of the timeline (in brief) is:

LEO’s arrive at original suspect’s address.

Confrontation / shots exchanged.

Original suspect (O.S.) down — at this point were any LEO’s significantly hurt? Possibly not.

LEO’s approach downed O.S.

Shooter or shooters in house open fire on the LEO’s, mortally injuring some, injuring others. Were the LEO’s grouped tightly around the O.S.?? Attempting to aid the O.S., B4 shots from house are made?

Standoff, further gunfire. Possible attempted recues of downed LEO’s , and more casualties among the LEO’s?

Standoff continues.

Tank rams house, suspects in house eventually captured or surrender.

- - - -

Revisions likely?


71 posted on 04/29/2024 8:21:40 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: dragnet2

Clarification:

LEO’s arrive at original suspect’s address.

Confrontation / shots exchanged with original suspect (O.S.).

O.S. down — at this point were any LEO’s significantly hurt? Possibly not.

LEO’s approach downed O.S.

Shooter or shooters in house open fire on the LEO’s, mortally injuring some, injuring others. Were the LEO’s grouped tightly around the O.S.?? Attempting to aid the O.S., B4 shots from house are made?

Standoff, further gunfire. Possible attempted recues of downed LEO’s , and more casualties among the LEO’s?

Standoff continues.

Tank rams house, suspects in house eventually captured or surrender.

- - - -

Revisions likely?


74 posted on 04/29/2024 8:26:43 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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