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Russia breaks through Ukraine front line and captures strategically important town after 'newly-arrived brigade fled their post' in major blow to Kyiv - just as US finally approves huge aid package
UK Daily Mail ^ | April 24, 2024 | David Averre

Posted on 04/24/2024 4:10:55 AM PDT by C19fan

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As seen in the body of thread, Ukraine make an allegation Russia used "chemical poisons". There is photo of a Ukraine unit deploying a US M101 howitzer. The M101 was the standard 105 MM howitzer for the US Army during World War 2. Ukraine is using a weapon introduced in 1941. Some cheap NATO countries continued to use the M101 into this century; looking at you Canada.
1 posted on 04/24/2024 4:10:55 AM PDT by C19fan
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Russian heavy offensive west-northwest from Avdiivka, punched through Ocheretyne and succeeding along general northwestern direction, despite Ukraine counter-attacks.

- 03:55 / 23:34 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgu6vBo7Pw

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Avdiivka Front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0PWbDlc5TE

Russia has entire Army Group concentrated, there.

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23 Apr: BREAKTHROUGH! Russians EXPLOIT a Ukrainian Mistake & PENETRATE THE LINE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvoTs5gKgow

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2 posted on 04/24/2024 4:12:50 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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Ukraine is using a variety of 105mm guns. Example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M119_howitzer


3 posted on 04/24/2024 4:17:25 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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Not sure what your point is, Russians are using d-20s also ww2 era weapons as well as old trucks and rocket launchers from ww2. My fav is the use of nagants and maxim machine guns.

You use what you have. I do find it fascinating that the same usuals who said Russia had unlimited ammo and equipment are silent about Russia going from second largest weapons exporter to net importer of weapons.

Don’t worry after months russia took a town the size of Mayberry


4 posted on 04/24/2024 4:21:01 AM PDT by blitz128
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Russia has been more effective using older technology than Ukraine has been using advanced technology.

If we had a real military in the US, they should be scrapping themselves right now.

But they are more worried about pronouns and genital mutilation.


5 posted on 04/24/2024 4:23:54 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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Are Russian egg prices still slightly elevated?

Is there still a greater chance of Russian civilian aircraft failures due to resources going to the military?

Are Russians still using shovels in these Battles because they are running out of military equipment?

( the above are actual articles published in the MSM)

If any of the above ate it true than Ukraine is obviously winning


6 posted on 04/24/2024 4:24:11 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Ukraine is using a weapon introduced in 1941

It takes a special kind of stupid to march into a Russian Meatgrinder wearing a tin hat, while pushing 80-year-old equipment to the front. But this is the American business model; give the Ukes our old equipment while replenishing our stockpiles with new stuff. Oh, and about those F-16 The Zelensky was crying about a while back? Forgedaboudit.

7 posted on 04/24/2024 4:31:36 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Russians making big gains for the last 2 months since the fall of Adivka.


8 posted on 04/24/2024 4:32:21 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: Erik Latranyi

Interesting reply, yes Russia is using old technology effectively, but why do they need to.
Love the chicken coup and turtle tanks “old technology “ . First thought was the turtle tank looked like British mk1 tanks from ww1 and about as effective.

Don’t disagree with you on pronoun…. Stuff, but the fact remains Russia the “2nd greatest military “ has its hands full with much smaller Ukraine and a hand full of western weapons.

One week facing “ real military” and Russia would have no ships, no aircraft, and no MIC production

Appreciate your perspective


9 posted on 04/24/2024 4:34:05 AM PDT by blitz128
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Ukraine make an allegation Russia used “chemical poisons”.


Excess lead intake IS a poison. :-)


10 posted on 04/24/2024 4:35:20 AM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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Zelensky is smoking you out Zeepers. Do your duty and enlist. He needs more dyin’ to keep those US taxpayer dollars flowing. His wife needs another Paris shopping spree. Have a heart.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/hunt-draft-dodgers-ukraine-consulates-abroad-stop-services/


11 posted on 04/24/2024 4:36:19 AM PDT by dforest
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I know how the elites in Washington feel about the war. And how the elites in Ukraine and Russia feel. The ‘elites’ have made their positions known.

Might be time to try something new and do a highly supervised vote and see how the people of Ukraine feel. I’m guessing there are regions that would rather be a part of Russia and regions that want to ‘stay Ukraine’... or maybe not.

Those public choices might be an incentive for corrupt countries to clean up their acts - get ‘their people’ behind them. Our country is divided so we can afford to have a little sympathy and understanding here.


12 posted on 04/24/2024 4:39:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Two items Biden finds at 'Ice Cream Shoppes'? A: Ice cream cones and 7 year old girls to look at...)
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You use what you have.

Being creative brings this to mind...


13 posted on 04/24/2024 4:40:50 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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14 posted on 04/24/2024 4:42:12 AM PDT by ganeemead (everything )
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Wondering about when US cargo planes land in the Ukraine with pallets of cash, will Russian troops be there to welcome them?

On second thought probably not ... not unless the FJB crime family has kickback agreements with Putin similar to the arrangements with Ukraine.


15 posted on 04/24/2024 4:48:59 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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Ochoreteny took them about a week. I never understood the point of minimizing the enemy.


16 posted on 04/24/2024 4:49:57 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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Where is UMCReverendMom? She will have a Stroke over this news.


17 posted on 04/24/2024 4:50:16 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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“Excess lead intake IS a poison. :-)”

LOL. Ukie’s dying from Lead Poisoning.


18 posted on 04/24/2024 4:53:12 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Forbes has an interesting article on these events with more details.

A Ukrainian Brigade Disappeared, And A Russian Brigade Almost Broke Through: How The Battle For Ocheretyne Upended The War In Ukraine This Weekend

19 posted on 04/24/2024 4:53:34 AM PDT by Vlad0
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Where is UMCReverendMom?

I understand she's touring the Mid-West with a series of tent-revivals, combining the best parts of undeclared war and Christianity. I the grift is quite good.

20 posted on 04/24/2024 4:57:31 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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