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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 21 April 2024
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 21 April 2024 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 04/21/2024 4:51:45 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

The Talk Shows



April 21st, 2024

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Margaret Brennan anchors: Gov. Josh Shapiro (D-Pa.); Rep. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska); and New York Times national security and White House correspondent David Sanger, author of "New Cold Wars: China's Rise, Russia's Invasion, and America's Struggle to Defend the West."

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Anchor Shannon Bream: Sens. Linda Graham (R-S.C.) and Richard “Da Nang Dick” Blumenthal (D-Conn.); Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.); and a legal discussion with George Washington University law school professor Jonathan Turley; and Tom Dupree, former principal deputy assistant attorney general. Panel: Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation; former DNC delegate Richard Fowler; Guy Benson, political editor at Guy Benson is Townhall.com; and USA Today Francesca Chambers.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Hosted by Kristen Welker: Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy; Doris Kearns Goodwin, author of "An Unfinished Love Story: A Personal History of the 1960s (or “How I serviced LBJ”)."; NBC News national political correspondent Steve Kornacki discusses the results of a new NBC News political poll. Panel: Democratic pollster Cornell Belcher; Matt Gorman, former senior communications adviser of the Tim Scott presidential campaign and former communications director at the National Republican Congressional Committee; and NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent Angrea Mitchell—Same old Chuck Toad-level, easily forgotten group of angry Leftists slinging anti-American balderdash!

THIS WEEK (ABC): Hosted by Little Georgie Steponallofus (or is it Martha Raddish?): Rep. Mike McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee; Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.); retired Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer, author of "Reading the Constitution: Why I Chose Pragmatism, Not Textualism."; and a report on "efforts to mobilize environmentally conscious voters in battleground Pennsylvania ahead of the 2024 election." Panel: former Democratic National Committee chair Donna BrazileNut; former RNC chairman Reince Priebus, former White House chief of staff; Politico senior Washington correspondent Rachael Bade; and Politico senior political correspondent Jonathan Martin—same Ugly, shameless, Left-wing Propagandists and RINOs!

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Anchored by Jake Toe-Tapper (or is it Dana Bash?): Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D-Ill.) and Gov. Kristi Noem (R-S.D.). Panel: Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-Texas); Kate Bedingfield, former Biden White House communications director; Scott Jennings, former special assistant to President George W. Bush; and Jamal Simmons, former communications director for Vice President Harris—Tapper’s totally and toxically biased group of parrots!

SUNDAY MORNING FUTURES (FNC): The Show to watch Hosted by Maria Bartiromo: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas); Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah); Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.); and Poland's President Andrzej Duda.


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To: rodguy911

MTG Looking it up on Google...no idea.


101 posted on 04/21/2024 8:16:34 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: shalom aleichem
I would only add that the Dem election fraud machine targeted various races. Look at Joe Kent in Washington, a vote by mail state. Or the shenanigans in AZ that stole the election from the GOP slate.

What have we done to stop the next steal?

102 posted on 04/21/2024 8:17:15 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Fishtalk

Is it Marjorie Taylor Greene?


103 posted on 04/21/2024 8:18:10 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Fishtalk

Oh well goodbye. Am too stupid.


104 posted on 04/21/2024 8:19:19 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: kabar

Trump knows how to,negotiate Biden et Al placate with the goal of enriching themselves.

Lost in all of this is Obama letting Hillary set the table with her feckless performance in a leadership role


105 posted on 04/21/2024 8:20:57 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: DanZ
Rand Paul backed by GOP donor with $33B TikTok stake

Sen. Rand Paul’s heated opposition to a TikTok ban startled Capitol Hill last week, but you could look at it as a straightforward case of following the money, according to insiders – in this case, the money of a major GOP donor who has $33 billion on the line.

The billionaire CEO of Susquehanna Financial Group has given Paul more than $10 million since 2020, according to election filings. His fund also owns a 15% stake in TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance, that’s worth an estimated $33 billion.

106 posted on 04/21/2024 8:21:12 AM PDT by kabar
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To: rodguy911

For sure,I think Maria was asking MTG a question that is better asked of the higher ups running Trumps campaign.

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Agree. Still good to,see her give a straight answer re her view.


107 posted on 04/21/2024 8:22:37 AM PDT by patriotspride (Third generation Vet. Never forget the true cost of freedom)
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To: Fishtalk

Marjorie Taylor Green from Georgia. She lifts weights, ran her own construction company, and takes no guff from anyone.


108 posted on 04/21/2024 8:22:57 AM PDT by shalom aleichem (Sick 'n Tired! Tell us wnat to DO about it! )
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To: Alas Babylon!
The CCP bans Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. in China. Just in trerms of reciprocity alone, we should not be giving the CCP benefikts in the US that we don't enjoy in China.

US citizens can't own property in China yet we allow them to buy farmland in the US next to key US military installations. What's wrong with this picture?

What scares some politicians is that TikTok has 177 million users in the US. And the CCP has been mobilizing them against the ban. I bet the Senate kills this amendment.

109 posted on 04/21/2024 8:26:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
Exactly Nuland was behind much of the strategy of Ukraine which is why it wound up being such a disaster.

You have to know that she allowed all the underground goings on from child smuggling to creating deadly virus’ to arms and drug smuggling. Underground in ukraine:


110 posted on 04/21/2024 8:28:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: Fishtalk

Marjorie Taylor Greene: House Rep. from Georgia.


111 posted on 04/21/2024 8:29:30 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: patriotspride

For sure she did the best she could and it’s impossible to expect her to set policy for the party.


112 posted on 04/21/2024 8:31:35 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: rodguy911
If you don't support giving aid to Ukraine, you are a Putine supporter. Never mind that we have to borrow the money to send to Ukraine and that it prolongs an unwinnable proxy war.


113 posted on 04/21/2024 8:31:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Lazamataz; marcusmaximus

For shame. One ought not disparage a fellow Freeper without pinging him or her.

You can skip his posts. I find many to be informative, and let’s not pretend he doesn’t suffer viscous slings and arrows easily as bad as he has ever delivered.

I doubt he posts bots.


114 posted on 04/21/2024 8:32:55 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: DanZ; All

What Are Mises’ Six Lessons?

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, APR 20, 2024 - 04:05 PM
Authored by Jonathan Newman via The Mises Institute,

Ludwig von Mises’s Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow has become quite popular recently. The Mises Book Store has sold out of its physical copies, and the PDF, which is available online for free, has seen over 50,000 downloads in the past few days.

This surge in interest in Mises’s ideas was started by UFC fighter Renato Moicano, who declared in a short post-fight victory speech, “I love America, I love the Constitution...I want to carry...guns. I love private property. Let me tell you something. If you care about your...country, read Ludwig von Mises and the six lessons of the Austrian economic school.”

The “six lessons” he is referring to is Mises’s book, Economic Policy: Thoughts for Today and Tomorrow, which was republished by our friends in Brazil under the title “As Seis Lições” (“The Six Lessons”).

If you are interested in what Mises has to say in this book, which is a transcription of lectures he gave in Argentina in 1959, here’s a brief preview, which I hope inspires you to read the short book in full. As a side note, if you are an undergraduate student who is interested in these ideas, the Mises Institute’s next Mises Book Club is on this text (pure coincidence!).

Lecture One: Capitalism
Mises begins his first lecture with an overview of the development of capitalism out of feudalism. Businesses began “mass production to satisfy the needs of the masses” instead of focusing on producing luxury goods for the elite. These big businesses succeeded because they served the needs of a larger group of people, and their success wholly depended on their ability to give this mass of consumers what they wanted.

Despite the amazing and undeniable increases in standards of living, even for a growing population, capitalism had its detractors, including Karl Marx, who gave capitalism its name. Mises says that while Marx hated capitalism and that Marx dubbed it thusly as an attack on the system, the name is a good one

because it describes clearly the source of the great social improvements brought about by capitalism. Those improvements are the result of capital accumulation; they are based on the fact that people as a rule, do not consume everything they have produced, that they save—and invest—a part of it.

Prosperity is the result of providing for the future—more precisely it is the result of setting aside consumption today by saving and investing resources in production. Mises says that this principle explains why some countries are more prosperous than others. When it comes to economic growth, “there are no miracles.” There is only “the application of the principles of the free market economy, of the methods of capitalism.”

Lecture Two: Socialism
In the second lecture, Mises takes a closer look at Marx’s proposed system: socialism. Economic freedom means that people can choose their own careers and use their resources to accomplish their own ends. Economic freedom is the basis for all other freedoms. For example, when the government seizes whole industries, like that of the printing press, it determines what will be published and what won’t and the “freedom of the press disappears.”

Mises acknowledges that there is no such thing as “perfect freedom” in a metaphysical sense. We must obey the laws of nature, especially if we intend to use and transform nature according to our ends. And even economic freedom means that there is a fundamental interdependence among individuals: “Freedom in society means that a man depends as much on other people as other people depend upon him.” This is also true for big businesses and the entrepreneurs who lead them. The true “bosses” in the market economy are not those who shout orders to the workers, but the consumers.

Socialists despise the idea of consumer sovereignty because it means allowing mistakes. In their mind, the state should play the paternalistic role of deciding what is good for everyone. Thus Mises sees no difference between socialism and a system of slavery: “The slave must do what his superior orders him to do, but the free citizen—and this is what freedom means—is in a position to choose his own way of life.” In capitalism, this freedom makes it possible for people to be born into poverty but then achieve great success as they provide for their fellow man. This kind of social mobility is impossible under systems like feudalism and socialism.

Mises ends this lecture with a short explanation of the economic calculation critique of socialism. When the private ownership of the means of production is prohibited, then economic calculation is made impossible. Without market prices for factors, we cannot economize production and provide for the needs of the masses, no matter who oversees the socialist planning board. The result is mass deprivation and chaos.

Lecture Three: Interventionism
Interventionism describes a situation in which the government “wants to interfere with market phenomena.” Each intervention involves an abrogation of the consumer sovereignty Mises had explained in the two previous lectures.

The government wants to interfere in order to force businessmen to conduct their affairs in a different way than they would have chosen if they had obeyed only the consumers. Thus, all the measures of interventionism by the government are directed toward restricting the supremacy of consumers.

Mises gives an example of a price ceiling on milk. While those who enact such an intervention may intend to make milk more affordable for poorer families, there are many unintended consequences: increased demand, decreased supply, non-price rationing in the form of long queues at shops that sell milk, and, importantly, grounds for the government to intervene in new ways now that their initial intervention has not achieved its intended purpose. So, in Mises’s example, he traces through the new interventions, like government rationing, price controls for cattle food, price controls for luxury goods, and so on until the government has intervened in virtually every part of the economy, i.e., socialism.

After providing some historical examples of this process, Mises gives the big picture. Interventionism, as a “middle-of-the-road policy,” is actually a road toward totalitarianism.

Lecture Four: Inflation
There can be no secret way to the solution of the financial problems of a government; if it needs money, it has to obtain the money by taxing its citizens (or, under special conditions, by borrowing it from people who have the money). But many governments, we can even say most governments, think there is another method for getting the needed money; simply to print it.

If the government taxes citizens to build a new hospital, then the citizens are forced to reduce their spending and the government “replaces” their spending with its own. If, however, the government uses newly printed money to finance the construction of the hospital, then there is no replacement of spending, but an addition, and “prices will tend to go up.”

Mises, per usual, explodes the idea of a “price level” that rises and falls, as if all prices change simultaneously and proportionally. Instead, prices rise “step by step.” The first receivers of new money increase their demands for goods, which provides new income to those who sell those goods. Those sellers may now increase their demands for goods. This explains the process by which some prices and some people’s incomes increase before others. The result is a “price revolution,” in which prices and incomes rise in a stepwise fashion, starting with the origin of the new money. In this way, new money alters the distribution of incomes and the arrangement of real resources throughout the economy, creating “winners” and “losers.”

The gold standard offers a strict check against the inflationist tendencies of governments. In such a system, the government cannot create new units of money to finance its spending, so it must resort to taxation, which is notably unpopular. Fiat inflation, however, is subtle and its effects are complex and delayed, which makes it especially attractive to governments that can wield it.

In this lecture Mises also executes a thorough smackdown of Keynes and Keynesianism, but I’ll leave that for readers to enjoy.

Lecture Five: Foreign Investment
Mises returns to a principle he introduced in the first lecture, that economic growth stems from capital accumulation. The differences in standards of living between countries is not attributable to technology, the qualities of the workers, or the skills of the entrepreneurs, but to the availability of capital.

One way that capital may be accumulated within a country is through foreign investment. The British, for example, provided much of the capital that was required to develop the rail system in the United States and in Europe. This provided mutual benefit for both the British and the countries on the receiving end of this investment. The British earned profits through their ownership of the rail systems and the receiving countries, even with a temporary “unfavorable” balance of trade, obtained the benefits of the rail system including expanded productivity which, over time, allowed them to purchase stock in the rail companies from the British.

Foreign investment allows the capital accumulation in one country to speed up the development of other countries, all without a one-sided sacrifice on the part of the country providing the investment. Wars (especially world wars), protectionism, and domestic taxation destroy this mutually beneficial process. When countries impose tariffs or expropriate the capital that belongs to foreign investors, they “prevent or to slow down the accumulation of domestic capital and to put obstacles in the way of foreign capital.”

Lecture Six: Politics and Ideas
The classical liberal ideas of the philosophers of the eighteenth and early-nineteenth centuries helped create the constrained governments and economic freedom that led to the explosion of economic growth Mises discussed in the first lecture. But the emergence of minority “pressure groups,” what we would call “special interest groups” today, directed politicians away from classical liberal ideals and toward interventionism. The groups that would benefit from various interventions lobby the government to grant them favors like monopoly privileges, taxes on competition (including tariffs), and subsidies. And, as we have seen, this interventionist spiral tends toward socialism and totalitarianism. The “resurgence of the warlike spirit” in the twentieth century brought about world wars and exacerbated the totalitarian trends even in the once exemplary nations.

The concomitant rise in government expenditures made fiat money and inflation too tempting. The wars and special projects advocated by the pressure groups were expensive, and so budget constraints were discarded in favor of debasement.

This, Mises says, explains the downfall of civilization. He points to the Roman Empire as an example:

What had taken place? What was the problem? What was it that caused the disintegration of an empire which, in every regard, had attained the highest civilization ever achieved before the eighteenth century? The truth is that what destroyed this ancient civilization was something similar, almost identical to the dangers that threaten our civilization today: on the one hand it was interventionism, and on the other hand, inflation.

Mises finds hope in the fact that the detractors of economic freedom, like Marx and Keynes, do not represent the masses or even a majority. Marx, for example, “was not a man from the proletariat. He was the son of a lawyer. … He was supported by his friend Friedrich Engels, who—being a manufacturer—was the worst type of ‘bourgeois,’ according to socialist ideas. In the language of Marxism, he was an exploiter.”

This implies that the fate of civilization depends on a battle of ideas, and Mises thought that good ideas would win:

I consider it as a very good sign that, while fifty years ago, practically nobody in the world had the courage to say anything in favor of a free economy, we have now, at least in some of the advanced countries of the world, institutions that are centers for the propagation of a free economy.

May we continue Mises’s project and fulfill his hope. What the world needs is “Menos Marx, Mais Mises.”


115 posted on 04/21/2024 8:45:39 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911; Lazmataz; DanZ; bray

What percent chance do you think there is that the DS will make sure the election does not happen?


116 posted on 04/21/2024 8:47:01 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The Tree of Liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: rodguy911

Thank you. That is not a very common name but do we suspect it will be? Let me find out more.


117 posted on 04/21/2024 8:52:06 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: gloryblaze

I can call marxistmaximus a lot of things, but a ‘fellow Freeper’ is not among them.

A lazy bot-like propagandist, sure.

But not a fellow Freeper. Not even slightly.


118 posted on 04/21/2024 8:52:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (To anyone who also wants to see the Bot "marcusmaximus" banned, contact me by Freepmail. )
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To: goodnesswins

What are we all talking abbreviations today? Who..or what...is DS?


119 posted on 04/21/2024 8:54:09 AM PDT by Fishtalk (https://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: goodnesswins

Good question,I don’t have a clue,wild guess 25%!


120 posted on 04/21/2024 8:55:39 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!! ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY: UNTIL ITS NOT))
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