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To: nickcarraway

“In the Bay Area, where monopolies such as PG&E are often the only utility options”

That is the way it is everywhere in California when it comes to electricity, gas, water and probably that way throughout muc of the country. I have never had another option in Kalifornia other than cable / phone service. The San Franmarxist Gate just stirring it up.


2 posted on 04/19/2024 2:22:49 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21
The San Franmarxist Gate just stirring it up.

Uh, just plain HELL NO!

Just the idea that a PG & E bill can be 40% of the rent in the Bay area is just plain wrong, "Markist" newspaper or not.

Additionally, having no competition is just plain wrong as well!
4 posted on 04/19/2024 2:25:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: DAC21

Not so. A number of municipalities have their own utilities. When I lived in Santa Clara, electricity was 40% less than PG&E. In Roseville at this time it’s closer to -75%. PG&E is so regulated it is practically an arm of the state government. I hardly need to tell what happens to affordability and efficiency when the government is in control


10 posted on 04/19/2024 2:33:01 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: DAC21

Parts of Texas have some choice in who you buy electricity from. You have to pay the middle man in any event (the company that transports the electricity from the manufacturer to the retail vendor) but you can select the retail vendor, and they can select where they get the electricity. Areas served by rural electric co-ops are exempt from competition. And some municipalities have their own generating plants.

Natural gas, on the other hand, is a monopoly.


25 posted on 04/19/2024 3:09:21 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DAC21
It would be SOOO much more efficient if multiple cable, electric, water, gas, etc. companies plumbed all the necessary cable, wires, and pipes to all of the neighborhoods just so we could have "competition".

Most utilities are run with strict public oversight. If a state has multiple utilities it is because each company serves a different part of the state.

In California PG&E can't raise rates without getting approval from a board. The problem is not PG&E. The problem is the board and the other politicians who have been forcing the utilities to move to renewables before their time. Also, it's not about requiring the utilities to build more plants or more dams, but in not retiring or limiting existing infrastructure.

Everywhere in California they are misusing dams to save a few fish, or retiring power plants because a bunch of idiots built and bought houses adjacent to the power plants and want the unsightly things removed.

The utilities are being dealt a bad hand due to clueless politicians and residents.

26 posted on 04/19/2024 3:09:57 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: DAC21; All
That is the way it is everywhere in California when it comes to electricity, gas, water and probably that way throughout muc of the country.
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You can use a 3rd party natural gas provider in CA and/or PG&E service areas, but after PG&E adds their "delivery/pipeline fees" the nat gas price is about the same as PG&E's and you have to worry about 3rd party billing issues:

https://www.pge.com/en/account/alternate-energy-providers/core-gas-aggregation.html#accordion-678a88e1bb-item-e2e88b9e2d

On the electric side there are "CCA's" in certain areas (usually "Blue" cities/areas), But again after PG&E delivery charges not much savings to be had. But lefties get their "Virtue Signaling" wind & solar props. that way.

https://www.pge.com/en/account/alternate-energy-providers/community-choice-aggregation.html

Then there are the "small" utilities in certain areas:
https://www.mid.org
https://www.smud.org
Others:
https://cecgis-caenergy.opendata.arcgis.com/documents/c69c363cafd64ad2a761afd6f1211442/explore

58 posted on 04/19/2024 7:02:52 PM PDT by Drago
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