Posted on 04/18/2024 3:07:12 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
House conservatives have stymied proposed supplemental funding packages for Ukraine since the fall. But their justifications for further delays in delivering military aid to Kyiv got little oxygen during an April 17 defense budget hearing before a key appropriations panel. “With Mr. Putin saying very openly and repeatedly that he wants to restore the old Soviet Union, all of the nation states, in Eastern Europe especially, are looking to us,” House Armed Services Committee Chair Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) said, referring to the Russian leader’s demands seeking no further NATO expansion, no missiles on Russia’s borders, and a return of NATO operations back to its 1997 borders. “If we fail them, I think it fuels further the belief that Putin will try to succeed in restoring the old Soviet Union.”
And if and when Russia attempts to “pull back” former Soviet republics into its fold, such as NATO members in the Baltic and Poland, Mr. Rogers warned, such aggression would automatically trigger the treaty’s Article 5 and embroil the United States directly into a military conflict with Russian President Vladimir Putin’s forces.
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There may be a few, but most are trolls. IMO
If the administration got out of the way of American oil and gas distribution, production and exploration, as the Trump administration did, the price would drop so that Russia and Iran couldn’t afford their adventures.
Vacate the chair!
Another unfunded stimulus package. We are the world’s largest debtor nation. We add a trillion dollars to the national debt every 100 days. Annual debt servicing costs now exceed the defense budget. Prolonging an unwinnable proxy war is immoral.
Another endless war. How much more money must we borrow to send to Ukraine while our southern border remains unsecured? We can’t even get a trial for Mayorkas in the Senate. The armed services can’t meet their recruitment targets.
Ukraine is a bottomless, corrupt money pit. We are broke.
Same old scare tactics. They will say anything to keep the corrupt gravy train rolling. So we give another $60 billion to the corrupt country who kicks money back to the corrupt politicians who vote to give them the money. I keep saying that no amount of money can buy the men Ukraine needs to win a war against Russia. I despise Biden and the rats more than I fear Putin. They are destroying America, not Putin.
Good deal for Finland and Sweden. NATO is the insurance policy that has the US acting as the guarantor of their sovereignty up to and including nuclear war and footing the bill. NATO is a paper tiger. The UK can fit its entire army (86,000) in Wembly stadium and have 14,000 seats vacant.
Without the US, NATO is a paper tiger. It is time to have Europe pay for its own defense. With a combined GDP equal to the US and a population of 500 million, Europe has the means to defend itself. NATO, like the UN, is an anachronistic organization stuck in the post WWII period.
I think you might be confused.....
“Apologies, but to what “rationality” do you refer? We’re broke. We’re approaching a cliff with our debt where we can’t even pay the interest. Why is passing this funding bill “rational?”
Oh, one of the true adults seeing through the scam...
This article is deceptive propaganda supporting warmongering and war profits for the MIC. It purposely fails to mention the reason Putin doesn’t want anymore NATO expansion is because the west signed an agreement NOT TO encroach NATO onto Russia’s borders yet we were trying to breach agreement and do that very thing we agreed not to do.
The full picture is for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. We poked him and would not stop poking him so he poked back.
Supporting Putin’s action of invasion is wrong. But to purposely and deceptively hide the facts that triggered him is just as wrong. In the mean time we just cannot afford to pay for the situation we triggered purposely just to profit from war. The narrative of “defending the west by supporting the Ukraine” is pure BS psyops propaganda.
“For decades the US spent trillions in anticipation with a conflict with the Soviet Union.”
Let me turn that fiction into fact for you:
For decades the US spent trillions trying to start a conflict with the Soviet Union.
“How much does the Deep State pay you for posting endless propaganda?”
Or... Personally owning stock in the MIC is very profitable during these wars.
The idea that 60 billion or 200 billion or whatever number they throw out is all new spending is a false narrative, but they know that.
I don’t think they do. Certainly 99% of the screamers posting here don’t.
If you believe that I have a bridge to sell you...
Of course it is...
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Why don’t the rich euros pay for their ignorant war? George Washington was right...no foreign entanglements.
The more than $40 billion in additional aid to Ukraine approved by Congress on Thursday brings the total U.S. commitment during the Russian invasion to roughly $54 billion, when combined with the aid package passed in March [2022].I cannot easily find a total since 2020.
This funding bill would raise it over $200 billion total.
(And don't forget the percentage lost to corruption)
Agree. Their backyard. Their problem.
What a trivial propaganda response to such a serious and expensive decision by those nations and their people.
Joining NATO means greater military spending and military responsibilities for their nations as they feel forced to end their tradition of neutrality.
European nations have been forced to take on new burdens of military spending and costly war preparedness to face what dozens of nations see as Russia’s future goals of war and conquest.
Endless it will be, because as long as Russia believes it has a duty to expand its' empire by brute force, war there will be. We do not have a choice now, nor will we in the future. As "Putin's Brain" Aleksandr Dugin puts it: "The American Empire (as if we had one) Should Be Destroyed".
“”””For decades the US spent trillions trying to start a conflict with the Soviet Union.””””
You might want to look at the offensive nature of the ground troop units Russia had facing NATO versus the defensive nature of the NATO forces, did Russia really need 7 Airborne Divisions and so many bridge building units to defend their ill-gotten gains?
To start a war didn’t all we have to do would be to move to help someone like the Poles, or East Germany, or one of the many other nations that fled the Russian master when the chance came?
“”””It purposely fails to mention the reason Putin doesn’t want anymore NATO expansion is because the west signed an agreement NOT TO encroach NATO onto Russia’s borders””””
Here is your chance to correct the article if you aren’t lying, show us the document.
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