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To: Svartalfiar
And, we promised the Russians no eastward expansion of NATO and expanded it to their borders.

Ukraine signed the Minsk Accords that would have prevented this but Ukraine reneged on them with our encouragement.

So spare this bullsh&t about honor and obligation to Ukraine.

We nor Ukraine are the least bit honorable.

26 posted on 04/15/2024 8:56:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
And, we promised the Russians no eastward expansion of NATO and expanded it to their borders.

That was never a formal agreement, just verbal promises related to German reunification, so it's not like a major (or minor!) treaty was broken with any of them. So why didn't they invade anyone in response to Poland, Hungary, Czech, and everyone else east of Germany when they joined?


Ukraine signed the Minsk Accords that would have prevented this but Ukraine reneged on them with our encouragement.

The Minsk Accords likely wouldn't have even been needed if Russia hadn't had soldiers involved in Ukraine in the first place (in violation of Budapest). And arguing about Ukraine violating them doesn't mean much when the other side was violating them just as much too.
But what does that have to do with Russia invading? Minsk had nothing to do with NATO or "Nazis", the two big excuses Russia used for their special military invasion.
27 posted on 04/17/2024 5:24:33 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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