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To: marktwain

“”Under the law, a person is presumed to have a reasonable belief that deadly force is immediately necessary when a person is in the process of illegally and forcefully entering an occupied vehicle.””

The law actually says that - specifically to an occupied vehicle? They must have a lot of that in PA for it to be spelled out. How about “illegally and forcefully entering a home” - “home invasion”? Do they have a law specifically for that?


8 posted on 04/13/2024 7:42:52 AM PDT by Thank You Rush ( )
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To: Thank You Rush

Yes, you can shoot someone attempting to break into your home in PA.


9 posted on 04/13/2024 7:50:17 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Thank You Rush

The law distinguishes between someone entering your vehicle when you are in it (carjacking, deadly force authorized) versus you seeing someone entering your empty car in a parking lot (car theft, deadly force NOT authorized)

The difference revolves around the reasonable assumption that your life, rather than just property, is threatened.


10 posted on 04/13/2024 7:54:49 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Thank You Rush

Many states require you to flee your home when invaded. Those people are ruled by idiots.

If you can reasonably believe (note I said “can” not “do”) that your well being is threatened: fire away.

As to I bear some responsibility to lock my doors, nope. Neither am I responsible for keeping a moat around my house.


12 posted on 04/13/2024 8:09:13 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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Do they have a law specifically for that?

From state.pa.us:

(2.1) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (2.2), an actor is presumed to have a reasonable belief that deadly force is immediately necessary to protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat if both of the following conditions exist:

(i) The person against whom the force is used is in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or has unlawfully and forcefully entered and is present within, a dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle; or the person against whom the force is used is or is attempting to unlawfully and forcefully remove another against that other's will from the dwelling, residence or occupied vehicle.

Probably enacted because of carjackings.

13 posted on 04/13/2024 8:22:25 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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