Posted on 04/09/2024 10:42:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
It's been two years, and no criminal charges against the MANY people in the school that also turned their back on the kid??
Here you go my crazy and mentally deranged 15 year old son take this handgun and have fun 🤪
The school officials sent him back to class that day, after recommending shrink treatment.
not having control of the car jackers and shop raiders.
This gets into the details of the argument. Who actually owned the gun? It was not the boy. The gun dealer would not have sold it nor could it be registered. The gun was in the father's home. Shooting at a range, with his mother, also was perfectly legitimate
Did the boy have unsupervised access to it? Certainly. That's probably how the State showed "negligence" to the judge/jury. No one is arguing the parents were not "bad parents."
The Michigan law is below.
In Michigan, a person under the age of 18 generally may not possess a firearm in public except under the direct supervision of an adult 18 years of age or older.1 Persons under age 18 may possess a firearm while at, or going to or from, a recognized target range or trap or skeet shooting ground if, while going to or from the range or ground, the firearm is enclosed and securely fastened in a case or locked in the trunk of a motor vehicle.2 Persons under age 18 may also possess a firearm while hunting game under the authority of a hunting license on land upon which a parent or guardian is regularly domiciled or where a parent or guardian, or another adult at least 18 years old authorized by a parent or guardian, accompanies the minor.3
The school officials have some liability however they are not being held to any account.
I am certainly virulently and aggressively opposed to THAT particular brand of Leftist focused targeting, all of which I oppose, but I view that particular type as pure EVIL. Not exaggerating, either.
Those kids need time, and they need help. They need time to grow out of it, and help to understand they aren't twisted or crazy. Instead, we get authorities, school, hospitals, and parents who ENCOURAGE it. Makes my blood boil.
I think the authorities cracking down on parents who are trying to pull the kids out of the grasp of these EVIL people who seem bent on maiming them and destroying their whole life is CRIMINAL and worthy of prosecution and jail.
In this case, they had that drawing to consider. In normal parents, that should have set off all kinds of alarm bells. Perhaps they meant to talk to him when he got home, not even thinking he might have taken the gun to school with him, and that is the only mitigating piece of information.
How times have changed. When I was in 8th grade in Prince Georges County in Maryland, they mandated forced busing my first year in that school. It was very stressful. But my issues were scholastic, not racial or social. I had been bullied pretty consistently up to that point but in 8th grade I was starting to fill out, and was one of the kids on the bigger side, and I had learned I had to fight back, so kids weren't picking on me much anymore. I had learned how not to be a bully-magnet (those military style black plastic government issue glasses that I learned when I joined the Navy were referred to a "BCD's" which stood for "Birth Control Devices" didn't make it easy for me, but I finally learned that not fighting back only invited more of the same. (My mother had been telling me that for years leading up to that point)
So, for me, it was nothing like that.
I was very angry at being forced to take an art class and be required to draw what someone forced me to draw. So when we got the assignment to draw what we wanted and present it for a grade, I drew a picture of a guy laying face down on the pavement next to a skyscraper he had jumped from, with a crowd of people gathered around looking down at his body.
I drew it deliberately to shock the teacher and show my displeasure at being forced to take the class. It had nothing to do with me wanting to throw myself off a building or being suicidal. Nothing came of it.
But today?
Today, I would have been pulled from class, assigned a psychological counselor, and be given some kind of drug like Adderall. I have zero doubt of that. Today, I would have been treated as damaged goods, and might never made it to where I am now.
But the world was different in those days. They didn't DO that kind of thing. I thank the Lord I lived through that phase back then and not now. I think it is absolutely insane what schools have the power to enable kids with, even while being completely unable to apply any kind of discipline.
It is seriously a sign of cultural rot, that there are places a 13 year old can have their desire to be changed into the opposite sex encouraged, aided, and abetted by the school, even to the point of starting them on the "transition path" WITHOUT THE PARENTS BEING INFORMED!
I am reading a book called "Bad Therapy-Why The Kids Aren't Growing Up" by Abigail Shrirer, and it is alarming to me to the point of having to put it down. In the last chapter, I read, they were talking about AI Driven Psychotherapy Bots to make available to kids! That sounds like putting unsuspecting kids at the mercy of AI designed by people who want to indoctrinate them.
And we know from experience they want to indoctrinate them a certain way. Is is just me who views that concept with REAL repulsion and horror?
I don't have kids. But I cannot imagine there are parents who do, reading that book, don't have their hair completely standing on end. But, apparently, there are parents who are all in on this stuff.
Just crazy.
Are parents liable when the kids steal it?
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Are you even reading the right article? The kid was GIVEN the gun. He didn’t have to steal it.
That's the gist of the matter.
The mother called it the boy’s Christmas present on social media.
You can read my other replies
You can read my other replies
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I have. And replies to your replies are the same as mine:
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Isn’t “blood libel,” forbidden in the Constitution?
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Fine! Now the parents of the multiple tranny shooters and the 3 feral youths that beat the DC homeless guy to death. What’s good for the goose and all.
I thought it was a dangerous precedent, also. Then I heard testimony the young shooter went to his dad asking for help that he was having bad thoughts, the dad gave him a pill and said “suck it up”. He went to his mother and said the same thing, she laughed at him. They then bought him a gun and four days later he opened fire on these school kids.
Definitely feel so sorry for the students and their families, but I also feel sorry for the shooter. He went to friends, his parents, the school caught him with ammunition and called his parents, they found violent drawings, called his parents who didn’t care. The school should have immediately intervened, called children’s service, demand he was removed from the school and institutionalized for evaluation. This is a tragic failure and the school is also responsible for not protecting the boy but more importantly the other kids in that school.
It is a dangerous precedent imho. Yes, these parents appeared to have been reckless, at least according to what has been presented. Knowingly providing access to a gun while being well aware of mental health issues.
That said, it could be used to imprison any parent for the gun violence of a ‘kid’ under circumstances that are far different than this. Does it even need to be your kid? Or a kid?
You are kidding...right?
Or any person who turns a blind eye to someone with mental illness who might harm someone in the future.
Could this be the start of actually cleaning up the crime action in ‘Rat Urban Utopias?
No. Did you see the post I asked the question to?
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