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Pro-life conservatives are 'disappointed' in Trump's new abortion policy, but stick by him: 'only one option'
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Posted on 04/08/2024 12:23:15 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

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To: Erik Latranyi; Olog-hai

Here is Trump saying in a radio interview that he supports a 15 week ban:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/03/20/trump_on_national_abortion_ban_people_are_agreeing_on_15_weeks_it_will_be_something_thats_very_reasonable.html


161 posted on 04/08/2024 2:02:58 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Erik Latranyi

LOL, Axios?? They openly confessed that Trump was not committing to a federal abortion ban. Bad enough they ask him leading questions and twist his words right then and there.

So thanks for proving that Trump never “floated” anything at federal level. Never mind expressing your love of liberal sources. Opus?


162 posted on 04/08/2024 2:05:23 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I too, have been greatly disappointed in Trump’s ‘evolving’ policies on abortion. However, today, he should be applauded for finally appearing to settle on the right plan going forward - being the enforcement of individual state control over the issue. It’s quite a shocker, and we’ll see if he sticks to it, but let’s hope and pray so for now. Thanks.


163 posted on 04/08/2024 2:05:45 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: GulliverSwift

No; he said he was thinking in terms of what people were agreeing on. And I don’t see in the context where that specifically applied at the federal level.

One thing that the liberal sources all admit specifically is that Trump has never at any time committed to a federal ban, nor was a federal ban an issue related to the overturn of Roe and the Dobbs decision.


164 posted on 04/08/2024 2:09:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: frogjerk

I clearly understand about the Declaration and the Constitution. And I also believe it takes a changing of hearts and minds approach. I believe that’s best achieved through independent states rather than the Federal government edicts because it is largely controlled by atheist’s, one-worlders, leftists at so many deep state levels it isn’t funny. I firmly believe the Fed is our worst enemy at this point in time, and the only thing that might get ‘codified’ by this Congress is a complete “right-to-abortion” everywhere.


165 posted on 04/08/2024 2:09:18 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GulliverSwift

Politics is “the art of the possible”.

All that talking about abortion bans will accomplish is to guarantee a Dem victory. This has been demonstrated many times. And the Dems will vote to protect and subsidize abortion.


166 posted on 04/08/2024 2:09:55 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: GulliverSwift

Or he wants to win the next election, you left that option off

Have more than a few business acquaintances that refused to vote for DJT over abortion, few them however have expressed some satisfaction with the current siaution and voting with your feet

I suspect he will pick up at least a couple percent of the female vote with this


167 posted on 04/08/2024 2:14:06 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: GulliverSwift

You do not know me, or anything about me-I’m not an atheist, sir-I’m a conservative and a Catholic-not a cafeteria one like pope Frank and FJB, so keep you insults to yourself and don’t be a small person who is unable to handle a discussion in a civil manner. And MLK was not a communist, either. It i unfortunate that you can’t have your own way here, but that is not how this works...


168 posted on 04/08/2024 2:15:50 PM PDT by Texan5 (`"You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder how these people complaining feel about Texas enforcing its own border laws in opposition to the feds?


169 posted on 04/08/2024 2:16:55 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: GulliverSwift

many people need to get over themselves, especially ones that claim to be Christian (ie: supposedly gave their life to Christ) many of them tend to be conservative in ways so I am coming from that view about this article/title.

If America’s Founding Fathers were God inspired in forming the current Constitution as so many of their writings suggest, to have states have the most say in people’s daily rights/choices, then why on earth do so many conservatives want the federal govt or president to try to push for a national solution to abortion and women who get pregnant and don’t want the child?

Follow God. Following your own wants on a matter like this, which are not in line with what He started in the USA, is to be outside of His plans and purposes.


170 posted on 04/08/2024 2:17:03 PM PDT by b4me
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To: GulliverSwift

the ALTERNATIVE is to educate men and women to got get themselves in situations where they even have to consider an abortion.


171 posted on 04/08/2024 2:19:00 PM PDT by b4me
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To: GulliverSwift

Like it or not, the Dobbs decision made clear the federal government has no role in this matter. The Constitution leaves the matter entirely to the states. Anyone campaigning on the promise of supporting federal laws on abortion, for or against, is dishonestly posturing for votes. If any such law passed, it would be struck down by the same court. Trump is just being honest with us. Anyone who advertises otherwise isn’t.


172 posted on 04/08/2024 2:19:12 PM PDT by c-five
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To: GulliverSwift

Leaving abortion to the states is exactly the argument pro life advocates have maintained since 1973.
SCOTUS exceeded its authority in the Roe v Wade decision, and that’s the point that needs to be made to the US public as loudly as possible so that it doesn’t come back the same, illegal way.
I would personally welcome a national ban on all abortions, but 50 years of propaganda and brainwashing has had the effect desired by the extreme left.
Leaving the issue to the states is the only politically viable solution.
Trump has made the only decision possible in today’s America.


173 posted on 04/08/2024 2:21:02 PM PDT by Thapsus_epiphany (Socialism is a prison, Communism is a death camp )
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To: Manuel OKelley

The matter of continuous centralization, thus violation of the Bill of Rights and by extension the entire Constitution, has been the biggest problem of the last century, never mind this century.


174 posted on 04/08/2024 2:21:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: GulliverSwift

I agree.


175 posted on 04/08/2024 2:25:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway; GulliverSwift

I don’t think it’s his advisers.


Correct. President Trump is a career businessman who at heart cares little about the culture wars, foreign affairs, etc. It’s fools errand to project onto him what you want him to be because he’s never going to be that.


176 posted on 04/08/2024 2:25:43 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90

I never projected that onto him. And I was bashed for saying as much. But it still doesn’t mean abortion, LGBT agenda, immigration, 2nd amendment rights, eminent domain, religious freedom etc. are important.


177 posted on 04/08/2024 2:29:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: b4me

I guess the sticky problem is that those people living in their mother’s wombs are also American citizens too!

Also, my personal opinion is that if men have to support an unwanted child, women should carry that unwanted child to birth.

Fair is fair.


178 posted on 04/08/2024 2:29:38 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: lodi90; GulliverSwift

don’t think it’s right to say he doesn’t care about the culture wars. Look at his pageant.


179 posted on 04/08/2024 2:37:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: GulliverSwift
Flashback to February:

Trump Privately Expresses Support for a 16-Week Abortion Ban

Former President Donald J. Trump has told advisers and allies that he likes the idea of a 16-week national abortion ban with three exceptions, in cases of rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother, according to two people with direct knowledge of Mr. Trump’s deliberations.

Mr. Trump has studiously avoided taking a clear position on restrictions to abortion since Roe v. Wade was overturned in the middle of 2022, galvanizing Democrats ahead of the midterm elections that year. He has said in private that he wants to wait until the Republican presidential primary contest is over to publicly discuss his views, because he doesn’t want to risk alienating social conservatives before he has secured the nomination, the two people said.

180 posted on 04/08/2024 2:39:38 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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