[EnderWiggin1970]

Actually Ukraine will win, in the sense that the carnage will stop, peace will come and better relations with its major neighbor. It’s the corrupt oligarchs and the globalist establishment that will lose.

[Navy Patriot]

Actually Ukraine will win, in the sense that the carnage will stop, peace will come...

True, the ordinary, average, decent, productive, peaceful citizens of Ukraine will win, ... IF the current Corrupt Nazi Government is forced to treat them properly, or is removed.

[Svartalfiar]

Actually Ukraine will win, in the sense that the carnage will stop, peace will come and better relations with its major neighbor.

Better relations? Huh? If your neighbor annexed half your backyard, would you start inviting him over to the BBQ?