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To: McGruff

Suppose Ukraine does accept a negotiated peace, leaving Russia in control of Donbas and Crimea?

How will that give them security, given Russia’s known long-term goals?


6 posted on 04/06/2024 1:07:45 AM PDT by jdege
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To: jdege

If we had allowed Russia to acquire Russian majority areas around Russia, as Putin claimed was his agenda, then we could have made it negotiable to allow this for the understanding that even an inch further would have given us the legal rights to respons militarily with all resources that are at our disposal. That was the most peaceful option that we had.


7 posted on 04/06/2024 1:11:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (A rich man is called a sugar daddy. A poor man is called into HR.)
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To: jdege

Security for an Ukraine is apparently a non issue, only “security” for Russia is.
To the usuals here and Putin(Humm) that one issue, what putin sees as necessary for Russian security, is the only justification he needs to do whatever wants.
The reality is Russia was not threatened, has had NATO on its border for years, freely trading with the west, and at least putin and his chosen were getting wealthy.
All those claiming “peace” negotiations is the only “reasonable” scenario know that Putin and Russia are not in a good place, neither is Ukraine, but the position putin has created for himself is not good.

Interesting this article is posted right after a large attack on Russian bases was just completed.

Obviously the act of a country without options/s


18 posted on 04/06/2024 2:44:20 AM PDT by blitz128
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