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To: nopardons
That's one of THE stupidest posts I ever EVER read on FR and I've been reading FR for over 25 years!
Soooooooooooooooo...you've NEVER heard about THE SINKING OF THE LUSITANIA?
How about the THE BOMBING OF PEARL HARBOR!

Maybe you should do your research instead of bragging how long you have been around being totally gullible.



Zimmermann Telegram
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram
The Zimmermann Telegram (or Zimmermann Note or Zimmermann Cable) was a secret diplomatic communication issued from the German Foreign Office in January 1917 that proposed a military contract between the German Empire and Mexico if the United States entered World War I against Germany. With Germany's aid, Mexico would recover Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico. The telegram was intercepted by British intelligence.

Revelation of the contents enraged Americans, especially after German State Secretary for Foreign Affairs Arthur Zimmermann publicly admitted on March 3, 1917, that the telegram was genuine. It helped to generate support for the American declaration of war on Germany in April 1917.

The decryption has been described as the most significant intelligence triumph for Britain during World War I[2] and it marked one of the earliest occasions on which a piece of signal intelligence influenced world events.

The Lusitania and the secrets of war, revealed
Saul David
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/01/lusitania-secrets-of-war-revealed-sinking
One of the great mysteries of the first world war – whether or not the passenger ship Lusitania was carrying munitions and therefore a legitimate target when it was sunk by a German submarine in May 1915 – has been solved in the affirmative by newly released government papers. They contain Foreign Office concerns that a 1982 salvage operation might “literally blow up on us” and that “there is a large amount of ammunition in the wreck, some of which is highly dangerous”.


Lusitania's Secret Cargo
Volume 62 Number 1, January/February 2009
by Erin Mullally
https://archive.archaeology.org/0901/trenches/lusitania.html
The nearly century-old debate about whether the passenger liner Lusitania was transporting British war munitions when torpedoed by a German U-boat is over. Physical evidence of just such a cargo has been recovered from the wreck, which rests 12 miles off the Irish coast in 300 feet of murky, turbulent water.

Bullets from the ship now confirm it was carrying military cargo. (Courtesy Eoin McGarry)
Lusitania was sunk off County Cork on May 7, 1915. The attack killed 1,198 people, including 128 Americans, and helped push the United States into World War I. Ever since the ship went down, there have been suspicions that Lusitania was carrying live munitions. Under the rules of war, that would have made the liner a legitimate target, as the Germans maintained at the time.

The British government has always been evasive about the presence of munitions on Lusitania. Two cargo manifests were submitted; the second, filed after the ship sailed, indicated there were light munitions on board. Some believe the ship was carrying much more, however, and that the British Navy attempted to destroy the wreck in the 1950s to conceal its military cargo.

Now a team led by County Waterford-based diver Eoin McGarry, on behalf of Lusitania's American owner, Gregg Bemis, has recovered live ammunition from the wreck. Bemis was granted a five-year license in 2007 by the Irish government to conduct limited excavations at the site. He originally bought the vessel in 1968 for $2,400 from the Liverpool & London War Risks Insurance Association.

This past September, Bemis’s team used a remotely operated vehicle to penetrate the wreck. They were able to clearly identify a vast amount of ammunition in an area of Lusitania not believed to have carried cargo. The Remington .303 caliber bullets the team discovered on the ship had been used by the British military during World War I. Ten of the bullets were brought to the surface.

61 posted on 04/03/2024 10:39:43 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.q)
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To: wildcard_redneck
Everyone, including me, knew, as childre4n that the Lusitania was carrying arms. So, yet again, you're in the wrong, assuming that I know nothig at all about this. As a matter of fact, I knew ALL about it, when I was 6 years old.

OTOH...your post clearly claimed that "ENGLAND GOT US INTO WWI AND WWII. That's not accurate.

Are you now going to post about THE BOMBING OF PEARL HARBOR being a nefarious plot by outside influences, other than Japan? LOL

65 posted on 04/03/2024 10:53:03 PM PDT by nopardons
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