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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I am, as I showed, far more conservative than you are.
What I am is the oldest, OG conservative there ever has been or can be. You lot are all liberal radicals.


48 posted on 03/07/2024 7:24:22 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya; JonPreston
--- "I am, as I showed, far more conservative than you are. What I am is the oldest, OG conservative there ever has been or can be. You lot are all liberal radicals."

What a chuckle.

An American is one whose nation was formed by resisting a monarch by a violent revolution which is still celebrated here. An American conservative is one who would "conserve" the results of that revolution, which is beautifully said in our Declaration of Independence (an excerpt):

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world."
You, the monarchist who brags about his "support [ of ] the restoration of the Spanish empire under the Bourbon monarchy," are not an American conservative whose legacy includes "it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government...."

While you might play with words, you fumble with defending your own monarchist view.

"In the United States, conservatism is based on a belief in limited government, individualism, traditionalism, republicanism, and limited federal governmental power in relation to U.S. states.[1] Conservative and Christian media organizations, along with American conservative figures, are influential, and American conservatism is one of the majority political ideologies within the Republican Party."

Conservatism in the United States

You blather on about "conservatism" by which you mean supporting the restoration of a monarchy, a type of conservative view which precious few in these United States hold today. Which is why you toy with definitions from Spain.

Lovely that you would paint actual American citizens on a conservative Free Republic as "You lot are all liberal radicals."

Keep talking, for you reveal your views quite nicely if foolishly.

This American, ex-Army "liberal radical" conservative -- in your parlance -- would honor our true historial revolutionaries' memory by throwing off your "conservative" monarchy of which you dream.

"...let Facts be submitted to a candid world," said to a monarchist who would have us be neither free nor republicans.

63 posted on 03/07/2024 8:05:35 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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