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Legendary Singer’s Estate Orders Trump to Halt ‘Outrageous’ Use of Her Music at Rallies
Ceveland ^ | Mar. 04, 2024

Posted on 03/04/2024 2:02:15 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: BB62

That doesn’t contradict what I said. What I wrote says it’s the songwriter who could have any say, not the performer. What you posted just assumes they are the same.


21 posted on 03/04/2024 2:22:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I think it’s more convoluted than that. Prince gets writing credits. She would get performance credits. And if it is available for public license by the MPAA then I think it’s fair game to be licensed and used in public events, bars, concerts, rallies etc. You pay the MPAA more for a live event or public gathering than you do for a Spotify individual enjoyment use.

The MPAA gets a lot of flak from musicians but there hasn’t really been a better way - few artists are in a position to control the licensing and collect the pennies from every bar in the country, so they give it all to the MPAA that then polices the use of music on behalf of all artists... which is nearly every one of them. Bars for example pay a larger fee to play music but lately I think they pay the streamer that fee who passes it back on to the MPAA. A few big time artists have exclusive deals with Apple or Spotify but other than that, the MPAA controls it all I think.

I am open to correction.


22 posted on 03/04/2024 2:23:27 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: BB62

I don’t see where it says that non-Republicans were ever targeted?


23 posted on 03/04/2024 2:23:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Fix this problem by having Uncle Ted play opening riff to Stranglehold for his entrance song then go right into the Star Spangled Banner.


24 posted on 03/04/2024 2:24:20 PM PST by JimDaniels1867 (Gun Control: Better to have and not need than to need and not have)
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To: nickcarraway

The estate of Irish singer Sinead O’Connor, who died in July 2023,
= = =

There are only 8 notes on an octave, which is 12, including sharps and flats;

So, “Don’t use of MY 12 notes! Or else!”


25 posted on 03/04/2024 2:24:54 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: nickcarraway

Probably so.

I’m sure it enraged these musicians that Trump would use their music.

These people feel the need to publicize that they are not supportive of Trump using their music. They are making a political statement.


26 posted on 03/04/2024 2:24:56 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: nickcarraway

LOL


27 posted on 03/04/2024 2:25:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Get off Biden's back, he lost his son in Iraq, and has a fulltime job as a lyin' sack.)
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To: nickcarraway

I paid cash and bought the record so ITS MINE. I will play it to as many friends as I can. Why do you see this as nothing but publicity?


28 posted on 03/04/2024 2:25:35 PM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It is actually the Sinatra Group that is legendary.


29 posted on 03/04/2024 2:25:48 PM PST by stanne
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To: BenLurkin

They wrote the whole article like Trump is a law breaker and we all should just realize it.


30 posted on 03/04/2024 2:26:51 PM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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"Throughout her life, it is well known that Sinéad O’Connor lived by a fierce moral code defined by honesty, kindness, fairness, and decency towards her fellow human beings”

Well maybe not so much, Capt. Cueball ripping up photo of the Pope on SNL, 1992. I suspect she was mentally ill way back then, not just when she died.


31 posted on 03/04/2024 2:27:21 PM PST by DAC21
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To: monkeyshine
I don't think performance credits count for much. Like when Prince covered Creep, he didn't have the right to pull it.

Sean Combs/Puff Daddy used the Andy Summer's guitar part from Every Breath You Take for a huge hit in the late 90's. Sting, who wrote the song, made another fortune of the Sean Combs song. Andy Summer did not make one cent, even though him playing is the only part used in the sample. [Sadly, he was pretty much responsible for the music, but he didn't get a credit.]

32 posted on 03/04/2024 2:28:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv

Amiright?


33 posted on 03/04/2024 2:28:59 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Delta 21

I thought the RIAA said you can’t play a CD in your car with passengers, since the CD only entitles you to listen to the music?


34 posted on 03/04/2024 2:29:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: stanne

Yup. I just love his nicknames for the c-word singer.


35 posted on 03/04/2024 2:31:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Get off Biden's back, he lost his son in Iraq, and has a fulltime job as a lyin' sack.)
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To: bigbob

“Public Performance License.”

For Trump this is literally “pay to play”. He pays the required fee, he gets to play the music.


36 posted on 03/04/2024 2:32:04 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: BenLurkin

I guess one could say that tearing up a picture of Pope John Paul II was legendary, but not in a good way.


37 posted on 03/04/2024 2:33:19 PM PST by rwa265
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, you’re right it depends on how they assign the rights. If they had given music rights to Summer’s he would have received music credits for licensing the riff - but if they wrote it up as “words and music by Sting” then it all goes to Sting. Andy should’ve known better. Summers will get performance credits when they play the actual song by the Police but yes, it is not very much at all compared to the lyrics/music rights. And sometimes, a musician just gets paid for the day in the studio and doesn’t get any royalties at all.

The puff daddy thing was licensing the guitar riff; which is different than licensing the song. You couldn’t steal the riff and play it yourself for example, without paying royalties to whomever got the music credit. Plenty of lawsuits alleging stolen riffs - from Led Zeppelin to Vanilla Ice vs Queen.


38 posted on 03/04/2024 2:33:53 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: nickcarraway

It came close to a situation when Rush played, “My City Was Gone” as his bumper music. Turned out that Hynde’s father was a big Rush fan so she allowed it to continue.


39 posted on 03/04/2024 2:35:16 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: nickcarraway

She daid...


40 posted on 03/04/2024 2:38:18 PM PST by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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