Posted on 02/27/2024 1:00:48 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Rep. Debbie Dingell (D-Mich.) warned Tuesday that her colleague Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s (D-Mich.) anger at President Biden over his administration’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war could backfire if it helps elect former President Trump, who she said could be far worse for Palestinians.
Dingell said it is important to listen to the Muslim and Arab American communities in Michigan, as voters in the state go to the primary polls on Tuesday. Tlaib has backed a push for Democratic voters to vote “uncommitted” in protest of Biden’s support for Israel, and refusal to back a ceasefire in the war.
But Dingell said that Palestinians in Gaza would have been worse off if Trump was in the Oval Office when Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing some 1,200 people and taking about 240 hostages.
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Dingellberry? Yes, and record size, she is, for sure.
Is it time to send the muslims back to where they came from?
To keep the Palestinian leadership of Gaza and the West Bank rivals and prevent them from joining forces in their quest for a separate and unified Palestinian state.
For a country whose policy is genocide Israel has uncharacteristically been doing a piss poor job of it.
less than 1.5% extermination rate
head up and locked
Is there any limits to the foolishness that progressives and Never-Trumpers suggest that Trump might do in his second term? The preposterous claims only discredit the imbeciles who are making them.
“Democrat Dingell says Trump may have ‘nuked Gaza’ amid anger at Biden”
Democrat Dingleberry says Trump may have ‘nuked Gaza’ amid anger at Biden
There, fixed it
What does this even mean? 🤔
This kind of red meat rhetoric is unhelpful except maybe for local elections. On a global scale this is just ignorant deliberate obfuscation and omissions of what has been at play for a long time. Trump, via Kushner, got the Abraham accords. It was scaled down from its original vision. Kushner came with commitments for at least $50 billion in aid to develop the entire region. Billions were to go building Palestinian infrastructure and enable trade with Egypt and Jordan and Israel. When Kushner got there, he found a paralyzed Palestinian authority that could not make a deal - they never make much progress for a lasting deal - and of course Hamas was running its own fiefdom. There was nobody who could make a deal.
The idea that Trump would “nuke Gaza” is absurd. He sent Kushner there with ambitious goals. But because the Palestinians couldn’t get their act together the other signatories decided they no longer could tie their own countries’ fate to the Palestinian cause. They had to move forward in their own best interests and not let the flailing tail wag the entire Arab regions’ dog. And there is even more evidence of this. Donors have cut off UNWRA. And just this week at the urging of EU, US and Arab states the Palestinian parliament has dissolved. PM Abbas did not resign, but the import of all this suggests that despite all the know-little protestors in the street and the rhetoric there is widespread recognition in diplomatic circles that the Palestinians can’t continue on their present trajectory. It got them to this mess, so it has to change. Not with “nukes”, but by use of the carrots and sticks of diplomacy and sadly war. And only war because until now nobody was willing to call Hamas for what it was. Technically a terror group in name, but still given tons of money and allowed to preach hate and smuggles weapons and build war infrastructure.
Now of course it is widely speculated that Iran gave the green light to Hamas’ Oct 7 attacks with the express purpose of derailing normalization with Saudi Arabia. So far at best it just put it on hold. Iran would not likely not have done this if Trump were still POTUS. Iran saw a US that was weak and distracted, abandoning Afghanistan, bogged down in Ukraine, reckless with our own border, and social absurdities promoting LGBTQ type agendas over national security interests and social distrsss like defund police and tolerance of crime. They saw us as weak. They saw Democrats obsessed with vengeance and not with an eye on the ball. Hell we even coddled Iran and released money without any serious conditions on restraint. So they went for it. Maybe they miscalculated but then again, Iran doesn’t really care what happens to Palestinians it’s just good justification and internal distractions from their own internal problems. Perhaps they calculated that the US would put the thumb on the Israeli response. They got the houthis and other militias to create a lot of distractions. But fortunately, Hezbullah has so far decided that they don’t need to fully play along with the plan. They have their own interests in Lebanon to protect. Let’s hope it stays that way.
Trump wouldn’t have been in office when Hamas attacked Israel because he’s not a bumbling weak fool.
They also had little choice. They have agreements to remit money to the Palestinian self rule government. Any time they tried to hold it back they got pressure to release it. They provide nearly all public utilities to Gaza too, including managing tax revenues. Palestinians use the Israeli currency in commerce they dont have their own central bank. So to the extent Hamas has to pay civil servants and import goods and medicine for the people, Israel has been obliged by Oslo to provide it.
your head is where the sun doesn’t shine
(even that inquiry is solid evidence)
The only oeace is with dead Hamas terrorists
Yet the “independents “ supposedly hate nean tweets.
John Dingell held that seat from 1955 to 2015, and his father held it before him. WTF Michigan? Do you like living under a monarchy?!
You sound shockingly uninformed. Let me know if you've the inclination and courage to change this. I'm happy to help you.
An idea …
Sure, but that doesn’t explain why Israel conspired to create a terrorist group and to continue funding it, and managing it in other ways, for the purpose of having innocent civilians tortured and murdered.
too late, you lose
You make too much of it. Israel had very little to do with the creation of Hamas. It is essentially the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, that got split off from Egypt when Egypt lost control of the territory after 1967 and refused to take Gaza back after the 1979 peace deal. Even after 1967 they did not take part in armed resistance. They formed as their own group with their own name in 1987 but were primarily a humanitarian group that gave food, schooling and clothing to the poor; and in that endeavor Israel supported them. They became more militant and started an “armed wing” over the later years like many of the the Palestinian groups have their political wings and their militant wings. Israel did not arm Hamas (though they did arm the PA as part of the Oslo deal, to provide internal security/police) but when Hamas overthrew the PA in Gaza they took over the security and the armed resistance.
What during Trump’s prior 4 years in office gives him that idea? Honestly I think Biden is more likely to nuke Israel
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