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To: DavidThomas

“What is the Russian goal now? Take over the whole country? Just part of it? Keep them out of NATO?”

Accordant to analyst Peter Zeihan the Russin strategy is to retake the borders of the old Soviet Union which means they only have to defend about eighth hundred miles of access points, as opposed to eight thousand miles. Ukraine is only on the way to those access points, which are in Poland, and a host of NATO countries. The Russians have been at war for all but three years since Putin took over. The US strategy has been to keep Ukraine from losing, but not allowing them to win a victory that might precipitate Russian’s collapse. The US wants Russia as a counterpoint to the Chinese. If Russia loses then China will likely take all of the territory they can before Russia reconstitutes into a viable entity again. It sucks to be a pawn in someone else’s game.

The former Soviet countries couldn’t wait to join NATO as they knew what it felt like to be under Russian rule, and they didn’t like it one bit.


7 posted on 02/17/2024 8:42:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Gen.Blather

So how many former Soviet countries does Russia now possess? The Crimea?

I ask because I have not seen this massive onslaught against former Soviet countries. I have seen plenty try to join NATO, however.

I am, frankly, at a loss. I believe NATO was dead when East Germany was admitted. NATO is useless against China. Russia was selling energy to a Europe hungry for it, and at prices that America was largely dictating. NATO seemed to want an end to peaceful commerce.

That is how I see it, anyway.


14 posted on 02/17/2024 8:54:24 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Gen.Blather
The former Soviet countries couldn’t wait to join NATO as they knew what it felt like to be under Russian rule, and they didn’t like it one bit.

Can’t say that I blame them for that! I feel the same way as the same dark entity is doing the same things to us here with every demonrat and rino voted into political power over us. And that darkness, that entity cannot be allowed to win without a fight wherever it might be.

And poor Zelenskyy. He has to beg from one devil to help him with his nation’s fight for survival against the other devil. That’s gotta suck.

I do think Biden would have given Ukraine over to Putin, the same as Hillary and obama would have, but Ukraine must have something juicy enough on the oBiden crime family to have been given as much aid as they’ve been given so far.

Not enough to win against the Russians, of course, that would not make Putin happy, especially if he had been assured Ukraine was going to be his without much of a fight. Hey, a deal’s a deal, right?

But, it has been enough for Biden to say he’s helped and to also be able to blame the Republicans for him not giving Ukraine what they need to win against Putin. All too easy.

What’s not been easy is Ukraine. I don’t think anyone expected the Ukrainians to fight as tenaciously and as resourcefully as they have. You can ask the Black Sea fleet about that!

It’s a real fight to the death for Ukraine and I wonder what will happen when the next round of help shows up, including F-16s and what they will bring to the fight.

Today is the Sabbath day for many and I’m thinking about the spiritual side of this struggle. I’ve heard about generational blessings (and curses, too), where the blessings of the prayers of one generation are not always felt by that same generation, but are instead passed on like an inheritance to be received by a future generation.

If such things are true, then I have to wonder about the prayers said during the Holodomor, for example, and what blessings (or curses) might come from them during this deja vu all over again fight with Putin.

38 posted on 02/17/2024 9:28:15 AM PST by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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