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AT&T proposes ending California landline service, customers want to keep lifeline
KTVU Fox 2 via Youtube ^ | February 7, 2024 | KTVU Staff

Posted on 02/07/2024 7:12:37 PM PST by thecodont

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To: DoughtyOne

Sigh.

Yes, believe it or not, there are some people who don’t have a cell, and don’t have a computer, and don’t have cable or satellite.

Not all people can afford it. Some don’t want it.

But then, maybe this will result in some people simply not having any telephone ability at all, so we’ll partly be back in 1870. Especially when a hurricane comes by.


21 posted on 02/07/2024 7:36:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jonty30

“It’s probably cheaper to provide everybody a basic cellphone to ensure everybody can call 911 than to keep landlines going”

The PSTN landline system was designed to survive a 1950’s style multimegaton attack. Cell towers and their electronics? Heh. And then, there are capacity issues.


22 posted on 02/07/2024 7:37:40 PM PST by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: Jonty30

Thanks Jonty30...


23 posted on 02/07/2024 7:38:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: The Antiyuppie

That’s a good point.


24 posted on 02/07/2024 7:38:14 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: null and void

As long as they leave the Telefon system in place.

(I remember AUTOVON from decades ago.)


25 posted on 02/07/2024 7:38:44 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Mears

No. It sucks. We were totally upset when Verizon forced the “update” on us. You need to mount a ridiculous battery back-up pack inside your house. And as all batteries, it’ll only last maybe 12 hours.

We kept our landline but it is not as foolproof as it was 10 years ago. Especially if power goes out indefinitely, like a few hurricanes and snowstorms have done for up to a week.


26 posted on 02/07/2024 7:39:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Thanks. Good points...


27 posted on 02/07/2024 7:39:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: thecodont

Bad idea! Cell phone communication security is non existent and the service can become unreliable, especially when power outages occur and the cellular service can easily be controlled by hackers as well as the government. Again, Bad idea!


28 posted on 02/07/2024 7:40:33 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Jonty30

Remember 9/11?

Even cell phones - and those were not high-power “smartphones minicomputers - clog up the lines and can’t get thru.


29 posted on 02/07/2024 7:41:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: thecodont

Plus, it’ll be easy to pay your phone bill with Biden’s new digital currency. Pay it over your phone.

No landline, no cash. Life will be so simple.


30 posted on 02/07/2024 7:43:07 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: thecodont

I haven’t had a landline in years now. If I was really worried about cell phone reception being an issue I would simply get an iPhone 14 or 15 and utilize the SOS feature.


31 posted on 02/07/2024 7:43:44 PM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Landlines would not have made a difference, I think.
Fibre optics can handle a lot more data than the copper lines of landlines.

The issue in that situation would be available manpower. One person handling calls will handle the same number of calls, whether on a landline or cell phone.


32 posted on 02/07/2024 7:44:30 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Jonty30

*In some places, we are metaphorically running a train line for a single person just because they don’t want to buy a car. It should be a gradual thing, to where formally unserviceable counties are now being serviced.*

You are so right. The news report suggests the sky’s falling on the weakest amongst us.

ATT does have an out. They can sell or GIVE their network to Frontier. Let them maintain it.m Price will go up regardless.


33 posted on 02/07/2024 7:45:02 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: thecodont

About 25 years ago, our ancient AT&T twisted pair copper line was squirrel chewed and corroded. Our early ADSL service would routinely collapse to under 1 MBps. It took so many calls to get the damn company to do anything about it we finally switched to Comcast to get Internet and phone service over coaxial cable.

Now Comcast has MANY outages that last up to an hour. Since mid December, I’ve logged 40 outages totaling 732 minutes occurring in 14 different days. They offered me a paltry $20 credit! They had a tech come out and he found a bad squirrel chew on the cable at the pole and a “pull” on a connector. Fixed those but no improvement.

There is old, decrepit, unmaintained outside plant everywhere.


34 posted on 02/07/2024 7:59:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Jonty30

Fiber optic is on our landlines, unfortunately, now.

I believe real mechanical lines handle this better. I think cellular will crash before real live wires, everything else being the same. But who really knows right now with the changes on-going.


35 posted on 02/07/2024 8:00:48 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Jonty30

except that’s where the cable/internet usually comes from...

it’s not an issue to leave them inplace, i mean, it’s not like they dont charge for it


36 posted on 02/07/2024 8:01:27 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: DoughtyOne

In California with the natural disasters and high cost of labor, fixing damaged phone lines has to be costly. So AT&T has a point. Plus the selling point to the government is….. “everyone get tracked”.


37 posted on 02/07/2024 8:02:56 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yes, more so now than it was in 2001.


38 posted on 02/07/2024 8:03:33 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Lockbox

I wouldn’t argue with that.


39 posted on 02/07/2024 8:06:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Jonty30

“ending landline would allow resources to be spent putting up towers “

I live in an metro area.

The cell service goes out in the same exact places that it did 35yrs ago.

This includes a section of a major highway, random places in people’s homes etc......I was just remarking to someone the insane lack of improvement.

You made some convincing points but my experience is that cell service is largely unchanged in 35yrs and not very reliable. I don’t believe for a second that ending landlines would bring about some abrupt change.


40 posted on 02/07/2024 8:06:31 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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