Posted on 02/06/2024 3:44:40 PM PST by CFW
SEATTLE — A new Seattle City ordinance designed to give food delivery app drivers a more livable wage is "backfiring," according to several drivers.
You may have noticed that new $5 fee on Doordash and Uber Eats orders, but it is not just causing frustrated customers to delete their apps, as we reported. We are now learning the people the ordinance was designed to help are hurting.
What used to be considered "hotspots" for workers on those apps, feel a little colder since Jan. 13, according to several drivers we heard from. That includes Gary Lardizabal, a longtime, app-based, food delivery driver in Seattle.
"Sundays before the ordinance," Lardizabal. "You know, we'd be thinking breakfast. Today, I didn't even touch it. They're not going to order. It is definitely backfiring.”
Since the ordinance went into effect last month, Mia Shagen said her delivery opportunities have been slashed.
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My fit, healthy 20-something son used to live in Seattle. He was ordering door dash all the time. I thought it was stupid. He was three blocks away from 3 or 4 different food joints.
I have no idea what grocery stores charge for deliveries, but getting a week’s worth of food delivered might be worth it. But not a McDonald’s every other night.
Say you're a mom with young kids and husband is not home. It's easier to get delivery than to load the kids into the car.
For the first time in FR history, controversial FReeper EEE, wrongly accused of anti-semitism, is wrong on this topic.
Yeah well that is a faulty premise. Aside from the fact that they didn’t consider the economics of it (higher price = lower q. demand) they also didn’t factor in how the apps would or could respond. The companies can send orders to fewer drivers. Those fewer drivers would make the “minimum” but the other drivers would make nothing even if the demand was constant. The companies would be complying with the law 100% by basically slashing their workforce.
NYC implemented the same but at $29hr. I think Doordash pays that but the drivers get NO tips.
The delivery market is slowing there too
A couple of years ago I was a borderline invalid myself and the delivery services saved the day for me and my wife many times for a few weeks until I got some strength back enough to function.
Sometimes it comes down to this: many people love “having Servants” take care of boring or Nick Nack errands, and are quite willing to pay for it when the service is mostly trustworthy. If the DMV would allow it, people would pay for someone to stand in line for new registration tags.
I feel these are deceitful to consumers. I don't want to read a bunch of T's & C's just to order food or take a Lyft. Similarly AirBnb has priced itself out the of the market with excessive fees.
Entirely predictable except to idiot leftists.
I am amazed just how many people door dash for an $11 McDonalds meal. Doesn’t seem to pencil out for anyone yet somehow it works. I once heard that McDonalds and Chik-fil-a were the two most popular orders.
Im not entirely sure but I do know that when liberals cancelled coconut water producers for using monkeys then all those monkeys were suddenly out of work.
According to liberals economic inequality is what causes crime. I suppose all those poor little monkeys had to turn to crime to provide for their families.
Liberals, not just antibusiness but antimonkey as well.
My SIL is an IT UX manager and makes close to 200k. He usually works from home, but he thinks nothing of ordering a Starbucks coffee in the middle of the day. A $5 drink ends up costing him $15. Blows my mind.
“I could barely walk up and down my stairs for about half of that.”
That’s what I dread happening.
I don’t understand it either, but that’s just me. Reading this thread I can see some situations where it makes more sense - you’re ill, you’ve got a handful of toddlers to round up, you’re caring for someone, or you have a lot of food to order. Maybe it’s been a long day and you don’t want to suit up and drive in bad weather. I can see situations.
My wife likes the app - or more precisely she likes me to use the app for her. But I often refuse, or as I said I use it to find the food then go get it myself. It’s routinely $15 more to order a meal delivered, sometimes more depending on how much you tip. If she ever says “order what you want I’m not hungry”, I say good and open a can of soup or tuna or sardines. $3 meal. I load up on those when they go on sale. Crackers will do in a pinch if the bread went bad. McD and CFA are never on my radar. Obviously they are popular they do so well in the stores so I guess it makes sense they’d also be the tops on the apps. Personally I like to find the local restaurants.
But as for the tip, I’m not even sure what the established etiquette is. In a sit down restaurant it’s 15% give or take. For delivery? On the grubhub app the default tip amounts are $1 $2 $3 $4 and then other. $1 tip? Is that acceptable? I never thought to tip so low but apparently they don’t expect the kind of tips I’ve been giving. So maybe I need to find a subreddit or something and figure it out. I may be way over tipping.
“I’m not a Republican, I couldn’t care less if the Rats controlled all of D.C.”
This is Washington State.
Try reading the article.
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I never thought I’d see the day…
Well done.
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I stopped eating out.
I, on the other hand, always pick it up myself. Never used Doordash or any of the other apps, and never even had pizza delivered. I don’t trust anyone with my food.
Maybe when I’m too decrepit to drive, but not yet.
The government fixing what ain’t broken... Again!
With the same results... Again!
“A $5 drink ends up costing him $15.”
Hmm. I worked at a mining site in Indonesia years ago. All of the engineers and higher-ups were expected to hire maids, etc. (Forced to?) It was their way of taxing the “rich” and giving to the poor.
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