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Must've skipped history: Pope Francis says Marxism, Christianity have a 'common mission'
Twitchy.com ^ | 1/29/2024 | Amy Curtis

Posted on 01/30/2024 5:48:09 AM PST by NetAddicted

We've discussed the frustrating, borderline heretical, and highly politicized pontificate of Pope Francis at length here at Twitchy.

So when we saw these comments, we were both shocked and not shocked at all:

NEW - Pope: Marxists and Christians have a "common mission." pic.twitter.com/Tr0NVbzX0t

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) January 13, 2024

Oh really?

Well, the Catholic News Agency elborates:

Pope Francis this week called for cooperation between Christians and Marxists as a way to achieve greater “dialogue” and help in the search for the “common good.”

“I thank you for your commitment to dialogue,” the pope said in a private meeting on Jan. 10 with 15 representatives of DIALOP (Transversal Dialogue Project), an association of European leftist politicians and academics that seeks to bridge Catholic social teaching and Marxist theory.

“There is always a great need for dialogue, so do not be afraid,” the pope said during the event at the Paul VI Audience Hall.

Highlighting the nexus between social, economic, and ecological issues, the pope said that “politics that is truly at the service of humanity cannot let itself be dictated to by finance and market mechanisms.”

Maybe Francis isn't up to date on his history, but let's recap how Marxism has treated religion -- including Christianity -- as well as the 'common good', throughout the years:

For a century, Bolsheviks in Russia killed 100 million people.

Some 32-45 million Christians were killed in various communist uprisings in that same time period.

Communism and socialism create poverty and discourage work.

In short, Marxism has nothing -- nothing -- in common with properly understood Christianity.

Not one thing.

In fact, aligning oneself with Marxists who have a documented historical disdain for religion is ideological and cultural suicide. Marx called religion the 'opium of the masses', and a tool of their oppression.

MORE - In contrast, Poland's Pope John Paul II, in the fifth encyclical of his papacy, lashed out at atheism and Marxism, saying philosophies that reserve no place for God are really the "death of man."

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) January 13, 2024

John Paul II recognized communism for the threat it was, and was integral in bringing about its downfall.

Twitter/X users took the pope to task for his comments, the latest in a long line of them:

The pope is evil.

Marxists strive to be their own god. Christians are to humble themselves and serve God.

— Polite No More (@politenomoreUSA) January 13, 2024

Pretty much sums it up

Yep, this basically sums up the type of “leadership” we currently have right now.

— Klay Thompson (@Thompsonklay) January 13, 2024

Notice the pope doesn't have a 'common mission' with the Latin Mass Catholics he criticizes as 'rigid' and 'inflexible.'

I thought it was feed the hungry not starve them.

— Igor "Chakal" (@chakal_igor) January 13, 2024

So did we. Silly us.

One is the way of Sarah and the other of Hagar.

One is God's way, the other is man's failure.

— Brian Tunink (@brian_tunink) January 13, 2024

And communism fails. Every single time.

Obviously the Pope doesn’t read history books…

— Big Tom Callahan🇺🇸 (@CallahanAutoCo) January 13, 2024

No, he hasn't.

His own flock no longer have faith in him.

— Croxxed Out (@FLCons) January 13, 2024

Very, very difficult to follow his leadership.

How can the Pope reconcile this: "Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people."--Karl Marx.https://t.co/vZVkdfxQq0

— Grady Philpott (@PhilpottGrady) January 13, 2024

You can't. The history of Marxism is rooted in opposing, uprooting, and removing religion from the culture.

There is no 'common mission' with that.

Marxism is a religion which wants to destroy all other religions.

— Zachary Tisdale 🇨🇦 (@ztisdale) January 13, 2024

And even a cursory knowledge of history would demonstrate this.

This is what happens when you elect a Peron Socialist as Bishop of Rome…

It’s not like his successor will be any better. https://t.co/wzCGhuuTcX

— Vincent Charles: Roi De Tout (Ret.) (@YesThatVCharles) January 13, 2024

We have to hope his successor will be.

Any other Pope would have smashed this on the ground and commanded Christians to take action against this evil regime. https://t.co/qnmU4sZRMW pic.twitter.com/eH88VPRHlR

— Terry Schilling 🇺🇸 (@Schilling1776) January 13, 2024

Don't forget this. We haven't.

The saying “Is the Pope Catholic?” has a new meaning today.... https://t.co/1n7YRz1oga

— Eddie (@ICU1010) January 13, 2024

The answer to this once rhetorical question is now, at best, 'maybe.'

People are very mad that the pope is against poverty https://t.co/grxsOy3vkM

— evan (@esjesjesj) January 14, 2024

He must not be, to embrace Marxism, which makes people very, very poor.

babe wake up new schism just dropped https://t.co/WmdJ14OWpZ

— Lady 🏺Saffron (@LadySaffronVT) January 14, 2024

Schisms everywhere.

NEW - Pope: Fox and henhouse have a “common mission.” https://t.co/aWpKdkgDMj

— Aaron McIntire (@DeaceProducer) January 13, 2024

No different than what he's saying.

What an utter disaster Pope Francis has been for the Catholic Church and Christianity at large. Truly, a disaster of Hindenburg proportions.

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To: NetAddicted

the phrase has been updated to

is the pope marxist?


21 posted on 01/30/2024 6:41:30 AM PST by joshua c
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To: NetAddicted
Christian economics and capitalism share several key principles, as outlined in the retrieved documents. Here are the bullet points:

Capitalism is the economic system that aligns with the teachings of Jesus. It is supported and sanctioned by Him, while ideologies like socialism, Marxism, communism, and fascism are opposed and rejected.

Capitalism promotes the preservation and protection of God-given natural rights, prohibiting the initiation of force to violate these rights. It emphasizes safety and security, allowing individuals to devote more time to God rather than worrying about their well-being.

Jesus spoke about economics and expressed support for a pro-capitalist system in His teachings and parables. His omniscience and knowledge of what is best for mankind make His endorsement significant.

Capitalism recognizes the importance of private property and private property rights as God-given and beneficial. Owners have the authority to use and dispose of their property as they choose.

The total demand for labor offered by property or business owners is at their discretion. Wage rates are unrelated to Marxist exploitation theory.

Productivity and productiveness are seen as virtues in capitalism. Hoarding is considered a wicked and lazy vice, as it hinders productivity and goes against capitalist principles.

Capitalism encourages individuals to earn interest by lending their savings and capital, promoting investment and economic growth.

Business owners are encouraged to reward good employees and hold accountable those who perform poorly. Egalitarianism is not considered a virtue in this context.

Jesus taught His listeners not to worry excessively about subsistence goods or security, as God will provide for them. Capitalism allows for more leisure time to focus on spiritual pursuits rather than being consumed by work.

Capitalism, as a productionist doctrine, emphasizes the goal of increasing production rather than consumption. This leads to an abundance of high-quality goods at affordable prices, reducing worries about affording basic needs and allowing for a proper hierarchy of values.

22 posted on 01/30/2024 6:54:08 AM PST by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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To: mjp

The Pope, living a life of royal privilege, embraces the antithesis of what he should embrace, and economic ignorance is no excuse.


23 posted on 01/30/2024 6:56:50 AM PST by Rlsau1
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To: NetAddicted

This phony is either a commie ot he’s like Biden. Probably both.


24 posted on 01/30/2024 6:59:16 AM PST by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I always thought that Obongo had a role in removing Benedict, the real Pope. Frankee is a wrecking ball, and part of the evil Tsunami that has gripped the world.


25 posted on 01/30/2024 7:05:30 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: iamgalt

Not Obama, but Obama’s handlers. The only thing Obama can do is read off of a teleprompter.


26 posted on 01/30/2024 7:06:49 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Their common mission is centralized, military-like control of the subjects from the top down.


27 posted on 01/30/2024 7:11:31 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: NetAddicted
"Pope" Frankie says Christianity and Socialism have a "common mission".

Restart world slavery.

28 posted on 01/30/2024 7:13:05 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ( Joe Pedo's America! The Motel 6 to the world. Joe's Border Patrol will keep the light on for you.)
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To: NetAddicted

Hey, Frankie, you weren’t supposed to say that part out loud./sarc


29 posted on 01/30/2024 7:19:06 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: NetAddicted

I studied Communism at a university for about 3 years. One of the profs somehow got out of the Soviet Union in the mid 70’s—he was my favorite professor and explained how communism worked (actually, how it didn’t work) from a first person perspective.

I’ve found that people who support communism really have no idea how it really works in practice. Clearly, the Pope falls into this category....


30 posted on 01/30/2024 7:23:55 AM PST by The Toad
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To: The Toad

What is a Communist? A person who reads Marx and Lenin.

What is an Anti-Communist? A person who understands Marx and Lenin.


31 posted on 01/30/2024 7:25:11 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: NetAddicted

Anyone who has studied true history knows that the Church was the first Communist party with the pope at it’s head as an unquestioned divine dictator. King’s power came second under the Church. So historically this concept is accurate.


32 posted on 01/30/2024 7:42:01 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: NetAddicted

“Unbelievable”

Not really. Here is the Rub for our Marxist Pope.

Marxists never want to admit that Marxists don’t want God because the State is God. People who worship God, must have a moral compass and use that daily. Marxisms eliminates God so that moral compass disappears. “Without God all things are possible-—but they aren’t good things”. Marxist control everything and own everything, the individual is not important. No one can give of free will, or have a guilty conscience in a Marxist state, because the State is responsible, not the individual. The persons God in a Marxist state is the State.

Jesus said “Give to God what is God’s, give to Caesar what is Ceasar”. God demands a conscious, God demands you care for the Sick and the poor, and God demands you follow rules. The Marxist State and God are not compatible, so the Marxists always want Religion to be gone.

Anyone who believes that the responsibility of individual choice, in the eyes of God, can be delegated to the State don’t seem to understand what Jesus was saying.


33 posted on 01/30/2024 7:50:28 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: NetAddicted

This is why I advocate Theonomic positivism.


34 posted on 01/30/2024 7:58:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: dfwgator

Well, not far from the mark. Commie trash are notoriously pedo. Go look at the work from the Aholes who “intellectualized” that crappola. Then, this Pope defended a convicted pedo while serving in SAmerica. And, the Vatican is rife with priests who violate their oath to Gawd on celibacy.


35 posted on 01/30/2024 8:03:26 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: NetAddicted

Jesus Christ said that his kingdom was not in this world, and communism shows us that his purpose is to rule this world, so where are the parallels between Christianity and communism?


36 posted on 01/30/2024 8:09:57 AM PST by californian by choice
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To: NetAddicted

As much as I despite Francis, he’s not completely wrong. Communism is in reality a Christian Heresy.
It basically tries to create the kingdom promised in the Bible but without God.


37 posted on 01/30/2024 8:13:59 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: NetAddicted

In a way this is true. It is to gain followers. To forget just what they believe should be followed and how each is in opposition to the other in inexcusable.


38 posted on 01/30/2024 8:27:19 AM PST by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: NetAddicted

Just another demonic leftist, self-identifying as what he ‘really’ is. It’s probably due to the arrogance. They really must think that they are in control.


39 posted on 01/30/2024 8:34:59 AM PST by Danie_2023
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To: NetAddicted

I really respected the last 3 popes

this one, UGH!


40 posted on 01/30/2024 8:46:48 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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