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To: desertsolitaire

They will complete the conquest of the traditional Russian areas (300 years) which means Odessa and Kharkiv will be lost to Russia permanently. Had the West actually negotiated the Minsk Agreements in good faith, perhaps the eastern part of what was Ukraine wouldn’t have been transformed back to Russian. Putin will also ensure that NATO Ukraine will NEVER happen. These are the goals originally set and when they are accomplished the Russians will consider ending this if NATO GTFO of Ukraine. None of the war and killing were necessary if the West hadn’t been so hell bent on trying to use Ukraine to overthrow Russia.


37 posted on 01/26/2024 8:03:23 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Thanks for info.
Wasn’t there some talk many years ago, of post-Soviet Russia joining NATO as well? I seem to recall it...


47 posted on 01/26/2024 8:24:35 AM PST by desertsolitaire ( M)
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To: hardspunned
--- "None of the war and killing were necessary if the West hadn’t been so hell bent on trying to use Ukraine to overthrow Russia."

Institute for the Study of War. Kagan. Nuland. And the Democrats and RINOs whom they had convinced ideologically.

One also observes that Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges who was active in NATO and now in politics ENDORSED BIDEN in the last election.

"He endorsed Joe Biden in the 2020 U.S. presidential election in an op-ed with Ambassador Robert A. Mandell and Lieutenant General Donald M. Campbell Jr." In Wiki article: "Ben Hodges."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hodges

"Two retired generals, retired ambassador, all with Florida ties: Trump is unfit to lead," by Donald M. Campbell, F. Ben Hodges and Robert A. Mandell, Tallahassee Democrat, 29 Octover 2020.

Source: https://www.tallahassee.com/story/opinion/2020/10/29/two-retired-generals-retired-ambassador-all-florida-ties-trump-unfit-lead/6011503002/

"Biden must get Nato to arm itself for war with Russia. The clock is ticking in Ukraine"

Source: https://twitter.com/general_ben/status/1679067070871248897

--- "None of the war and killing were necessary if the West hadn’t been so hell bent on trying to use Ukraine to overthrow Russia."
51 posted on 01/26/2024 8:47:02 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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