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US forces strike Houthi sites in Yemen as Biden says allied action hasn't yet stopped ship attacks (#5)
AP via MSN ^ | 1-18-24 | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-forces-strike-houthi-sites-in-yemen-as-biden-says-allied-act

Posted on 01/18/2024 12:14:59 PM PST by dynachrome

U.S. forces on Thursday conducted a fifth strike against Iranian-backed Houthi rebel military sites in Yemen as President Joe Biden acknowledged that the American and British bombardment had yet to stop the militants' attacks on vessels in the Red Sea that have disrupted global shipping. The latest strikes destroyed two Houthi anti-ship missiles that “were aimed into the southern Red Sea and prepared to launch,” U.S. Central Command said in a statement posted to X, formerly known as Twitter. They were conducted by Navy fighter aircraft, the Pentagon said.

Biden said the U.S. would continue the strikes, even though so far they have not stopped the Houthis from continuing to harass commercial and military vessels.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Yemen
KEYWORDS: anotherstrike; houthies; yemen
What is the end game here? Invade yemen with the Saudis help?
1 posted on 01/18/2024 12:14:59 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

People should understand that the world is too advanced now US or any other power does not have any real advantage and it is just a slog....negotiation will go a long way..with mutual respect...The Ukraine fiasco should be a lesson but it is hard teaching dull people.


2 posted on 01/18/2024 12:24:01 PM PST by bte
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To: dynachrome

Looks like the Yemeni forces are shifting their attacks to the south side Gulf of Aden.

An attack in that sector reported in last hour or so. No details yet on what happened.

https://twitter.com/UK_MTO


3 posted on 01/18/2024 12:28:52 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: dynachrome

So Biden admits he is a failure?


4 posted on 01/18/2024 12:33:39 PM PST by Flint
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To: dynachrome

We don’t have the troops to do that. Remember, we have two other major wars ongoing that might need our immediate commitment of troops at any moment. Just keep shooting missiles and dropping bombs. I’m sure we’ll have the same success as we did with Saddam’s Scuds.


5 posted on 01/18/2024 12:37:50 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: bte

Do you really think the globohomo dullards in DC learned anything in Ukraine? They still don’t accept reality. They claim we’re winning still!


6 posted on 01/18/2024 12:40:36 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: dynachrome

Bidet’s pathetic ROEs are garbage, junk, crap, trash and shit.


7 posted on 01/18/2024 12:44:02 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Flint

Admitting a given — FAILURE — is not a virtue.


8 posted on 01/18/2024 12:48:43 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: dynachrome

Perpetual warfare.


9 posted on 01/18/2024 12:54:55 PM PST by EEGator
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To: dynachrome
I understand that only the UK agreed with the Blinken/Biden police action to protect shipping in the Red Sea. The rest of the world told us to take a hike.
10 posted on 01/18/2024 12:59:37 PM PST by NavyShoe
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To: dynachrome

Once again trying to fight the symptom and not the cause. Iran is the cause and has not been touched. When they are serious about stopping this wave of terror in the middle east, they will take out Iran.


11 posted on 01/18/2024 1:10:09 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53

“Once again trying to fight the symptom and not the cause. Iran is the cause and has not been touched.”

There you go.


12 posted on 01/18/2024 1:30:54 PM PST by Roadrunner383 (m)
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To: dynachrome

You’re a total failure on ALL Middle East affairs Joey.
Cut Iran oil off…..simple


13 posted on 01/18/2024 1:48:27 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: dynachrome

Houthi and the Blowfish?


14 posted on 01/18/2024 1:55:33 PM PST by VideoPaul
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To: bte

Yep. The Red Sea is effectively shutdown to NATO flagged ships, but BRICs and the global south have passage. Another unintended consequence, like all our sanctions, blows up in our face hurting us and helping our adversaries.

Sad


15 posted on 01/18/2024 2:09:41 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: NavyShoe

If the countries in the area won’t protect themselves, why should we?

F NATO as well.


16 posted on 01/18/2024 2:37:30 PM PST by EEGator
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To: bte
...negotiation will go a long way..with mutual respect...

That idea is rubbish.

If there was "mutual respect" the other side would not be using violence to get what they want. Supporting piracy and attacking commercial shipping is violence.

Negotiations with "mutual respect" only happen when both sides are willing to use violence and both sides want to avoid the cost of that violence in approximately equal measure. We do not yet have that condition.

17 posted on 01/18/2024 3:42:58 PM PST by flamberge (We are living in those "interesting times" the elders warned us about.)
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To: flamberge

You like forever wars don’t you? it will never stop and attacking ships in that place is easy, so is getting weapons...locating perpetrators is hard...don’t believe the non-sense in media say US hit this hit that it is just propaganda.

Why don’t you people get it? how is that Ukraine adventure going? Note humans are a intelligent and very adaptable species with access to vast technological resources...no one country is greater than the other especially for small actors...who can strike and move...unless you are willing to invade the whole country...and can control the movement.


18 posted on 01/18/2024 10:51:26 PM PST by bte
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To: bte
You like forever wars don’t you?

No, I do not.

Wars should be violent, decisive, and short. They should be followed by generations of peace.

We do half-hearted measures which lead to endless "low-intensity conflicts" and resolve nothing. Those are the "forever wars" of which you speak.

...no one country is greater than the other especially for small actors...who can strike and move...

A manifestly false proposition.

The Houthis can do nothing of importance without supplies and assistance from their Iranian masters. Break those connections and the Houthis are gone.

This problem is not solved through "negotiations". It is solved by countervailing force.

Our problem is that we do not really have countervailing forces and the Iranians are exploiting that opportunity with great skill. We are bluffing with inadequate and unsuitable forces that cannot (more importantly - will not) oppose Iran in any effective way.

Nobody is going to beat an Iranian merchant in "Negotiations". Their political leaders have superior skills in that arena as well.

Our feckless "allies" do not want to work with us. And who could blame them for wanting to avoid subordination to a "woke" and "diverse" military force where the LGBQT agenda is the highest priority of the senior commanders. To Hell with that! Military forces are too expensive to waste on such matters.

Piracy is suppressed by Marine raids on the facilities that support the pirates. You go in with ruthless men, wreck everything, kill all armed opponents, and then leave. Repeat until the piracy stops. For pirates at sea, you sink their ships and execute their crews. Public hangings after show trials are good, but naval commanders must be authorized to execute pirates at sea. And they must do that from time-to-time.

For guerrilla forces, you simply kill them in combat at every opportunity. It is too expensive to take and hold prisoners. Trials and public executions are counterproductive.

No revolutionary movement or guerrilla force has ever succeeded unless they had foreign assistance and sanctuary. You must disrupt those connections. That is the wider war that you seem worried about. War-by-proxy is still war between the sponsors, and there is always the prospect of blowback to the sponsors. Best not to start anything unless it is really important. It is always possible to lose.

Our war-by-proxy with Russia, in which we are fighting to last Ukrainian, is a good example of failure. We are going to see blowback, and we are going to lose. There was nothing of value to us that was worth the cost of winning. We should not be there, and we will back out, probably before the "elections". The promise of "Peace in Our Time" is what usually wins "elections".

Our war-by-proxy with Iran is likely to fail because the cartel which controls the US government has a dominant pro-Iranian faction that wants us to fail. However, the availability of low-cost commercial shipping ("freedom of navigation on the high seas") is an extremely valuable condition to other factions in the US cartel and to most of the factions in the globalist cartels that own other countries. There must be some very nasty arguments going on at high levels right now.

Follow the money.

Our responses will be confused and ineffective until the factions choose up sides more clearly. Do the globalists want an Iranian hegemon to control 20% of international shipping? Maybe they will, if they can get "10% for the big guy" on every transaction. Maybe they will want a better deal than that and will greenlight the US Navy to be more aggressive in support of the "negotiations". Maybe China and India will have objections to the Iranian positions and express them more forcefully.

"Da Joos", are pawns in this great game. For the US to betray them and support extermination of the entire State of Israel would be merely an appetizer for the Iranians. Their goal is a new Persian empire which dominates the entire middle east, and makes Western countries bow in submission.

They have seen that in their history and want to see it again. I am opposed to the idea.

19 posted on 01/19/2024 8:44:20 AM PST by flamberge (We are living in those "interesting times" the elders warned us about.)
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To: flamberge

Good read, but force is old way of thinking I don’t think it resolves anything in current world we are in now. “Wars should be violent, decisive, and short.” is an illusion unless you wipe out the other side; resolving the underlying political problem or issue should be the goal, ever heard of the “Hundred Years’ War”?


20 posted on 01/19/2024 1:25:05 PM PST by bte
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