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To: Timber Rattler

The Ukrainians have had a black list (which includes a kill list) of people who don’t talk nicely enough about their country since 2014. They claim it’s just an NGO site not affiliated with the government, but it’s used by government agencies including border checkpoints, courts, etc., and folks on the kill list have turned up dead. Sorry it’s the blasted wiki, but anyone interested can check out the footnotes which include OSCE reports, media articles, etc.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

The Hungarians and Bulgarians are not amused:

https://dailynewshungary.com/viktor-orban-listed-as-enemy-of-state-on-ukranian-death-list/

https://bnt.bg/news/what-is-known-about-the-myrotvorets-peacemaker-website-on-which-threats-against-bulgarian-politicians-and-journalists-we-319973news.html

The president of Croatia is also on the list. Gerhard Schröder and Henry Kissinger, too. It’s quite a long list.

Even before the Russian SMO, journalists and political figures both foreign and domestic were targeted (and sometimes killed:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/06/world/europe/reporter-branded-terrorist-ukraine.html

https://www.dw.com/en/gerhard-schr%C3%B6der-labeled-enemy-of-the-state-in-ukraine/a-46319939


37 posted on 01/09/2024 5:07:55 AM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

More conspiracy theory nonsense.


39 posted on 01/09/2024 5:33:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: CatHerd
--- "The Ukrainians have had a black list (which includes a kill list) of people who don’t talk nicely enough about their country since 2014." This statement was called a conspiracy theory, but it is factually correct.
Nice Ukraine List

"Langley, VA, USA and Warszawa, Polska," so says their website's splash page.

«МИРОТВОРЕЦЬ»

Source: https://myrotvorets.center/

Whois Domain Information
Domain: myrotvorets.center
Registrar: Cloudflare, Inc
Registered On: 2015-11-06
Registrant Contact
State: Nonthaburi Changwat
Country: TH

© Myrotvorets Research Center, 2014-2023

TH is Thailand.

Thailand, indeed. Why? Because this domain is therefore outside the jurisdiction of the EU and the United States. An NGO? Some argue this, but a close examination of ALL the links in the "myrotvorets"-related pages shows multiple domains, and some of them were registered in the US as early as 1999, one interestingly using privacy protection from a company in Jacksonville, Florida, and the "merch" side of selling things leads DIRECTLY back to ukr.net -- which is in Ukraine.

The war consists in part in an information war, with all sides playing their angles. None of it, based on simple whois queries and tracking down links to hosts and registrars, turns out to be other than Ukrainian-operated through Thailand. And the United States.

76 posted on 01/09/2024 10:34:29 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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