Posted on 12/15/2023 2:28:53 AM PST by canuck_conservative
Larry Johnson is a Russian apologist, and so are you
Sonar 21 = Russian propaganda
And just as you are clueless about Russia’s death count, so is the average Russian, because dictator Putin controls the Media and won’t report any bad news ... that’s why there’s no protests now ...
But there will be when Putin does his next mass-mobilization in March! lol
In 10yrs of Trashcanistan, they “only” lost 15,000. Different kind of warfare, I guess.
Failed English majors are horrible at maths. You should know that already.
Here's the math that counts:
Ukraine's losses:
$60bn of US funding for Ukraine€50bn of EU funding for Ukraine
The “Russia is evil we must hate Russia” message is precisely what the corrupt criminals in the fedgov what everyone to believe. I wonder why.... well, actually I know why. First, they want to keep pouring untold billions into the pit of corruption called Ukraine; second, Pedo Joe and others are beholden to Ukraine because of all their dirty doings there and they want the evidence kept hidden (good luck..) and thrid, Russia is hated because Putin hates globalism and has called Klaus Schwab and the WEF war criminals who want to control the world. Russia won’t allow wokedom, grooming, homo marriage etc which also fuels western hatred. Which is the simple truth.
>>>It would have been easier (and cheaper) if Putin simply bribed Ukraine leaders (with 10% going to Biden).
They tried. NATO outbid them.
Very good and short article. Since I read the entire live Ukraine thread as it was happening, I can verify that everything in the article is an accurate, although truncated, summary. I have a file on this topic.
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-great-lie
CLANDESTINE
DEC 15, 2023
Jimmy Dore summarizes the great lie that has kept this war afloat. [Link of Dore talking in article.]
The West have fooled the public to believe Russia are the aggressors, when it was the US CIA/State Dept who funded literal nazi militant groups and overthrew a sovereign nation, then took control of it via proxy. AND funded an created a massive army, with Western equipment, right on Russia’s border. AND they were slaughtering ethnic Russians in the Donbas. AND they were conducting nefarious ILLEGAL biological research and pathogen production.
Putin did what he had to do, and rightfully so.
The majority of Americans STILL do not know this, which allows the US and Ukraine to maintain their status as the victims, when they are the ones who brought war to Russia’s doorstep.
The sooner the public realize this reality, the sooner we can clean up the mess.
It's sickening we have so many here repeating the lies about this war and what lead up to it. Those doing so are as much the enemy as those on the left and Democrats.
That's why it is both amusing and disgusting when "Christians" here try to demonize Russia and act like the land of neo-Nazism and place where churches are being torn down is the country with the moral high ground in this war.
Russia is probably the nation with the largest population aggressively promoting Christianity and passes laws to protect its population from LGBT preversion.
Some wise FReepers have deduced that some of the pro-Ukros on FR are actually Ukrainians. I keep these links handy for threads like this. Hopefully all still functioning.
‘Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion attempts rebranding’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/03/ykgh-j03.html
‘British Media ‘Whitewashing’ Ukrainian Neo-Nazis: UK Editor’
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/British-Media-Whitewashing-Ukrainian-Neo-Nazis-UK-Editor-20220530-0001.html
‘Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis
https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/6/21533/Ukraines-Neo-Nazis?infinitescroll=1
Jon Stewart, DOD Honor AZOV BATTALION NAZI At Disney World’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zoB_6c0cag
‘Adam Schiff meets with members of Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion’
https://www.worldtribune.com/adam-schiff-meets-with-members-of-ukraines-neo-nazi-azov-battalion/
‘Zelensky Speech With Nazi AZOV BATTALION Prompts Greek Lawmakers To WALK OUT’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0tAWaNEhU8
‘The ideology of the Banderists’
https://www.voltairenet.org/article217363.html
The connection is that we have our intelligence and media telling us what Putin said. After what they have put us through over the past two decades, I don't see any reason to believe either of them.
Fair enough, do you get your information to form opinions from that you consider credible?
Of course I also listen to the mainstream news, but I usually find myself trying to filter through the leftists' bias.
That is why I find the blanket “propaganda “ statements as lazy
Example Denys, I find his take to be pretty fair, calls out mistakes as he sees them
Is it all correct and complete picture , of course not, but the screams of “monetized “ seem curious to me
I see where you're coming from, but what else would you call it when the media mischaracterizes Trump's comments about illegal aliens as comments on all immigrants? Or when the media deliberately cut parts out of Zimmermann's 911 call to make it sound he was saying something other than what he was saying, just to fit the narrative?
Casualties come in three flavors: KIA,WIA and MIA. Of the three, KIA is by far the numerically smallest.
Yes...
Regardless or irregardless lol , one has to pick through what is out there and come up with some sort of conclusion my point on lazy was just disregarding a
Source because of who it is and what say lies it has given in the past does not mean everything they say is
Difficult indeed
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