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To: qaz123

First mandate no use of fossil fuels.

Next introduce ‘renewable’ fuel sources. Which are mostly sourced by and produced using fossil fuels.

Voila. 200 years of production efficiencies are eliminated by government mandates in order to deliver highly inefficient energy at exorbitant costs to the economy. The new and longer delivery systems for government mandated energy production offer generous opportunities for graft, extortion, corruption.

Consumers lose. Crooks win.


26 posted on 12/14/2023 1:29:49 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

Good points.

“Which are mostly sourced by and produced using fossil fuels.” .... this brings up a completely different issue.

They don’t want fossil fuels. Fine. Demonstrate to the world how you can extract the required elements, supplies, machinery, equipment without using fossil fuels. You want to dig up lithium or whatever for your batteries, have at it. Show us how you’re going to do it without the use of massive, diesel powered equipment.

We’ll wait.

On a side note, given the enthusiasm from Gore and Kerry over the recent COP thing, cut off all the electricity and gas lines to both their homes and take all their ICE vehicles.


48 posted on 12/14/2023 2:26:03 PM PST by qaz123
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“Consumers lose. Crooks win.”

No kidding. And consumers won’t just lose — they will DIE. Far more people already FREEZE to death than die of heat waves and that’s been with somewhat affordable energy in the past. Imagine how many more will die when houses have to be kept no warmer than 59 F.

Of course, that’s their plan.


55 posted on 12/14/2023 2:57:21 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Justa

“200 years of production efficiencies are eliminated by government mandates”

That’s what really galls me. I worked in the power industry for 30 years including starting up new utility plants, design work, and advanced R&D projects.

The industry is the culmination of 1,000 years of work on mining, metallurgy, welding, thermodynamics, combustion, chemical engineering, mechanical engineering, physics, mining, ore crushing and pulverizing, mass transportation of tens of thousands of tons of coal. The number of contributors over that time is incalculable. Every little advance stood on all the previous advances. None of it came easy.

The childish bastards think they can re-engineer all that in a few short years. They are insane. The modern power system is the culmination of a huge amount of experimentation, testing, and development work over the past 130 years.

Most people don’t have a clue about the complexity of the power system and how we got here.


58 posted on 12/14/2023 3:32:25 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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