Then he paused and said ‘by the way, I’m Gavin Newsom’s father-in-law.’ pic.twitter.com/OSsYCRTJYo
— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 1, 2023"
Posted on 12/01/2023 6:03:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Newsom Claim #1: “The last two years, more Floridians went to California than Californians going to Florida.”
This is a strategy designed to deflect criticism of California's oppressive policies against businesses as well as their recent draconian covid policies. The claim is utterly false. In 2021, 24,000 Floridians moved to California – while 37,000 Californians moved to Florida. In 2022, 29,000 Floridians moved to California while 51,000 Californians moved to Florida. Furthermore, California had an overall population loss of 800,000 people in only three years. Florida gained a massive 600,000 people in that same time period.
Keep in mind that thousands of small business owners and a number of major corporations have also left CA. Newsom has consistently and blatantly lied about his state's population exodus for a reason – It's embarrassing.
Newsom Claim #2: “Florida has more gun violence than California...”
This is based on per-capita data, a common method Newsom uses to obscure the massive crime in his own state. Multiple cities across the US are not reporting complete crime data to the federal government as they wait for the FBI to finish updating their statistical collection system by 2025. This means we can only compare data from 2021 or before.
That said, in 2021, CDC info shows that California had 3576 gun related deaths in 2021, while Florida had 3142 (many of the deaths are suicides or accidental). California had 2361 homicides that same year, while Florida had only 1462. And what about mass shootings? California is #3 on the list of states with the most mass shootings in 2023, with around 60% more incidents than Florida.
Per capita adjustments do not make California a safer state, and neither do stringent gun control laws, as the facts show.
Newsome Claim #3: “The working class pays lower taxes in California than Florida...”
False, and also a deflection to avoid the issue of cost of living. Florida is among the top ten states with the lowest income tax burden. California has the third-highest cost of living in the country, along with a higher tax burden. Surveys show that the average annual income needed to live comfortably in California is $80,000. In Florida, it is 57,000.
Newsom Claim #4: “Inflation down to 3.2%. Wages are up to 4.4%. The economy is booming. 5.2%. GDP growth in the last quarter...”
Another use of cherry-picked data to paint a false picture of the economy. CPI is not an indicator of overall inflation, it is merely a window in time showing where inflation growth is at for the month. Since Joe Biden entered the White House prices on the majority of goods and services have risen by 25%-30% on average. A falling CPI does not change this in the slightest. Americans will likely be paying 30% more for the cost of living for many years to come.
Over 60% of US workers say that their wages are lagging well behind inflation, even those that received a pay increase this year. Biden is overseeing the worst stagflationary crisis in America in over 40 years.
GDP growth numbers include government spending in their calculations, meaning they are fraudulent. States like California and the federal government learned a long time ago that they can boost their GDP stats by borrowing and spending more each year. These numbers do not represent the true health of the US economy in any way. Which is why California is able to brag about having the highest GDP in the country yet it also has one of the worst homeless epidemics in the country.
Newsom Claim #5: “14 million jobs created under Joe Biden, that’s 10 times more than the previous 3 GOP presidents combined...”
False, and this lie is getting old. The vast majority of the jobs cited by Newsom were not created by Biden, they were jobs lost during the covid lockdowns which Biden and Newsom aggressively pushed and tried to prolong for years. When the Democrats were forced to end the lockdowns, many of these jobs returned.
Also, the surge in consumer buying created by over $8 trillion+ in covid money dumped into the economy created a short term employment frenzy, which is now starting to fade. The stimulus bought Biden a few years, but will it last until the end of 2024?
Newsom Claim #6: “1406 books banned by Florida so far...”
Incorrect. No books have been “banned” by DeSantis and the State of Florida. Some books have been removed from public schools, either for pornographic content or for propaganda content with no educational value. The real question is, why does Newsom defend the exposure of young children to the pornography in these books, which are often easily found in California schools? If it's related to LGBT issues does that make it okay in his mind?
Newsom's strength is his ability to lie with a smile on his face, and this says a lot about him as well as the people who support him. America is suffocating under the weight of spin doctors, we don't need yet another.
Very good summary. My biggest complaint was Newsom kept talking over DeSantis. I was surprised that Hannity mostly kept his mouth shut, which is definitely out of character for him. DeSantis did have his best debate night, he shined.
ping for later
It seems Newsom’s job was to gaslight us that everything is great under Dear Leader Biden. We’re just to stupid to realize how great this economy is. Gaslight Gavin.
A lot of people actually like slick. Those that do will not like DeSantis. He is not slick.
Newsome is slick; and will likely get even slicker, sicker, and slimier.
Then he paused and said ‘by the way, I’m Gavin Newsom’s father-in-law.’ pic.twitter.com/OSsYCRTJYo
— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 1, 2023"
Trump won. Trump wins.
The real bottom line is: how many eyeballs watched this faux news made for tv event
You didn’t watch it. You should watch it. Gavin was slick in a wannabe creepy way. He is in no way even a close approximation of BJ Clinton, who was a natural born slickster and could charm anyone.
“You didn’t watch it. You should watch it. Gavin was slick in a wannabe creepy way. He is in no way even a close approximation of BJ Clinton, who was a natural born slickster and could charm anyone.”
Very true, BJ perfected sleaze to an art form.
Over 5.5 million viewers. Double of Trump’s most recent made for TV “faux new” Town Hall event.
i’m glad but by no means surprised in any way Gov. Ron did well. at the very least, i’ve always considered him our conservative insurance policy in case Trump is removed by one of the many ongoing attacks from the leftist enemy.
even more importantly, i’m glad that he took down the dem party heir apparent. i’m amazed this even happened, but just this debate vs. noisome alone was worth Ron getting into the race against Trump. even though i’ve not been a fan of Hannity for along time, he showed here how and why dem journolists should never be allowed to moderate. he did a good job.
no secret here on FR, i left Trump and supported Ron since 2021 for the continuing actions he’s taking to secure FL politically, electorally, for his basic decency (Disney), competence (the jab), and judgment. all of that came through in the debate for once, thank God.
Bjc never charmed or any of my friends or sisters. We all agreed that he was most akin to a loser first husband or bad mistake boyfriend when we were young and foolish. I thought him quite repellant from the very beginning, his wife slightly less so. The only thing that has changed about this first impression, is that I now think Hillary is equally revolting.
I watched some of it; the last 30-40 minutes.
Newsom is slick. I'm guessing that females who buy those talked-about Shades-of-Gray porn books would probably vote for Newsom.
Newsom would offend any intelligent, grownup man or woman.
I did not waste my time last night watching this (as it turned out) sorry spectacle.
Don’t get me wrong — I like my Governor, and knew that he would take Grusom Nusom to the cleaners!
Grusom Nusom is a LIEberal!
LIEberals LIE!
Grusom Nusom LIEs!
Why would I waste my time watching him LIE and talk over my Governor?
Instead, DW and I watched an Inspector Lewis episode. Far better use of our time!
Let’s hope this time.
Let me be the first to claim viewer fraud. It’s time to march on the Nielsen Media Research Headquarters.
“The real bottom line is: how many eyeballs watched this faux news made for tv event”
exactly ... not me, but i figured it was pretty much nothing more than two Sideshow Bobs “debating” each other anyway ...
Governor Ron DeSantis was prepared, well-spoken, presidential, and would not be drawn down to Mister Newsom's level. A person to trust as a President.
Mister Newsom was rude, evasive, mendacious, rude, childish, snarky, rude, and came across as the ShamWow salesman of the Democrat party. No one would invite such a person into their home.
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