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To: Tell It Right
How many KW? What did you pay for it? What latitude? I have figured with 10 to 12 kw and self-install on the cheap a 3 to 5 year payout with no sale back to the grid. However, without batteries I am still essentially 100% dependent on the grid to be there when I need it which may be nearly 100% of my demand, certainly so at night. Solar is a subsidy at best or a hedge against inflation.

At worst though it is cheating the system. You are not contributing to the maintenance of the base load capacity that you need 100% of but only 20% or more of the time. Somebody has to eventually pay all the cost of that base load capacity. Until everyone has solar to the same degree people who do have solar are depending on their neighbors to pay higher rates 100% of the time to provide the solar owner 100% of his needs 20% of the time at that higher rate. The solar owner is being carried.

Solar can reduce fuel consumption but the physical plant that burns fuel for the times when solar is either crippled or unavailable remains the same size and probably even higher cost than to depend on it 100%. Solar and wind are problems.

27 posted on 12/01/2023 8:03:42 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Sequoyah101
How many KW? What did you pay for it? What latitude?

Details are at https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4200504/posts?page=24#24. Latitude is 33°.

It's not good for everybody. And half of the magic of making it effective is making your home more efficient to begin with (that portion I should have done many years ago before going solar) so not as much solar and battery capacity is needed.

Even with it working for me, I'd rather our country not be in a situation with the Dims' stupid war on energy. But since I can't change the Dims or put an end to their vote fraud, it makes sense to me for each of us to do what we can to make ourselves as energy self-reliant as we can feasibly do. The experience has been positive -- inspiring my wife and I to look for other ways to be more self-reliant (such as we've expanded our gardening -- to be honest I don't know if we'll make that work well enough to really put a dent in our grocery costs experiencing Bidenflation, etc.).

If you think about it, if all Americans looked for ways to make each of us more self-reliant, it wouldn't be as easy for government to control us.

32 posted on 12/01/2023 8:37:04 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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