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To: mikey_hates_everything

If you want to listen to an even-handed account of the Jewish-Palestinian issue from 1880’s to the 1940’s, I would HIGHLY recommend episodes of the Martyr Made history podcast called “Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem”.

They were recorded 4 or 5 years ago and are very long (like 20 hours) but they go through the pogroms in Europe to the earliest Zionists to the Belfort Declaration and up to WW2.

He demands at every step that you put yourself in the shoes of the Jews and then the Palestinians. It is a very powerful history lesson.

After hearing it, I felt like someone’s who’s only knowledge of WW2 was watching one episode of Hogan’s Heros and then being shown Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers.

It is really eye opening how much of the history of that conflict isn’t widely talked about.


11 posted on 11/30/2023 6:52:23 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: nitzy

I don’t need convincing, that’s for sure. My Grandfather was a Latvian Jew whose family, fortunately, and for me, got the hell out of Europe well before WWI. I’ve heard and read enough about what happened then and afterwards that I have to completely go into fantasy land to begin to enjoy Hogan’s Heroes.


12 posted on 11/30/2023 7:01:52 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: nitzy

Go back further in history to discover why the “ palestinians” fled the Aegean area ( Crete Cyprus) to the land of Canaan and interbred with Canaaanites to build a “ philistian” culture. Kinda like many other conquering cultures did. No bragging rights to the palis to be original inhabitants

The DNA of some early pali settlers in one of their 5 established Philistia cities in Gaza and surrounding, was about 75% canaanite, 25% Aegean ( Crete or Cyprus)

(Eric Cline, “1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed”)

If anyone should be throwing rocks at “occupiers” it should be Canaanites


18 posted on 11/30/2023 8:45:58 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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