Posted on 11/26/2023 7:17:08 AM PST by dynachrome
The discovery of a new wild coronavirus that has the same freak mutation as Covid-19 is being hailed by some scientists as proof Sars-CoV-2 was not made in a lab.
Researchers in China have found another bat coronavirus that possesses a furin cleavage site — the part that made Covid-19 so good at infecting people.
The furin has been one of the focal points of debate about Covid-19's origin, with some experts claiming it could only have been acquired through lab experiments.
Since then, studies have shown that wild coronaviruses can acquire the structure naturally — but the newly-discovered virus has another coincidental quirk.
The virus — known as TyRo-CoV-162275 — is up to 98 percent identical to coronaviruses found in pangolins, the animal long suspected of passing Covid-19 to humans.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Shouldn’t the title be modified to read “Communist Chinese scientists SAY they found a NEW bat coronavirus?”
It’s not the molecular biology I know and distrust, it’s you.
Note that THIS is put out by the go to news clown front of the Five Eyes— the UK Daily Mail. There is some purpose in this— to revive yet again another explanation to deflect the truth and continue the Operation? For 2024?
The Long March of chi-Coms..... Mao (Xi) is so proud of these monsters.
Think what we would have known if that idiot Prince Charles had not handed away Hong Kong— 99 years earlier than the treaty that provided for the handover!! What the actual hell is wrong with the dead Empire of Great Britain. WWII reduced them to gibbering show biz clowns, and handed their crap to the USA.
It's been reported that one of their big, new landing ships caught fire recently. Also, the wet season starts in early spring, ending the optimal time for combat. I think their Taiwan invasion plans are running late, and they would love a four year reset.
How do you really feel?
True!
The one in Washington DC.....
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OMG!!! Do they REALLY think we’re THAT STUPID????????
Talk about desperately trying to cover their tracks.
The chicoms run this new virus through 50 to 100k ferrets to give it this freak “mutation” too?
Can’t you just ask politely?
Why has rudeness and snippy, insulting talk became the norm on FR?????
Well is the Republican led— House Foreign Affairs Committee a “some anti-vax conspiracy site”?
You sound very much like the Chinese communist’s view on the subject—and I just read an article from China that makes me say that.
Here is what the committee said: “ Congressional investigators say researchers at the lab “had the ability to genetically modify coronaviruses as early as 2016 without leaving any trace of that modification.”
From this article:
I admit I don’t have a virology degree just a general science one but this article and one other I’ve spent an hour searching for fruitlessly.
And I’m certainly not going to waste another moment of my time for someone rude.
Yes.
Where's the evidence to the contrary?
You use that term, but I do not think you understand what it means.
Here was the original excerpt from the Daily Mail article that I was refuting: "The furin has been one of the focal points of debate about Covid-19's origin, with some experts claiming it could only have been acquired through lab experiments."
And here is my refutation, addressing exactly that claim: A furin cleavage site is actually present in a LOT of coronaviruses. How does the presence of a natural genetic element of many coronaviruses "prove" laboratory manipulation of a coronavirus? It doesn't.
Just in case you do not understand that I was, in fact, addressing the Daily Mail article directly and not making up some straw man, let me explain. If someone says that all swans are white, and someone else provides evidence of a black swan, then it shows that the first person was wrong. In this case, the unidentified "experts" claimed that a furin cleavage site could only be present as a result of laboratory manipulation, and I provided evidence that furin cleaving sites are common in coronaviruses. Therefore, laboratory manipulation is NOT the only way for furin cleavage sites to appear.
Now, as for my editorial comment in that reply #12. How can you believe that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a Chinese lab to be a bioweapon and simultaneously believe that Covid-19 is no more serious than any other cold? Are you really incapable of seeing the contradiction?
A bioweapon is something that is designed to cause high casualties, including deaths. If SARS-CoV-2 is no more serious than any other cold, then how can it be an engineered bioweapon?
And if you think a harmless virus was unleashed on the world so that elitists could use it as an excuse for world domination, then why didn't they use the first coronavirus discovered for that purpose? Or the second? Or the third? Or influenza viruses, rhinoviruses, or adenoviruses that also are highly contagious? Why didn't they use MERS, which has a significantly higher fatality rate than Covid, as an excuse to impose world domination?
The problem with conspiracies is that they fall apart under logical analysis.
The lab leak story was never a theory. It was never even a hypothesis. It was a conspiracy story from the get-go.
Don’t you get tired of trying to “defend” this evil action of those you just described? In your own description of what needed to take place, has the answer to your attempt at discrediting this whole event:
...”It would take years (decades) of research to determine if what they created were, in fact, capable of causing a pandemic. And then, after decades of experimentation, when they decide to unleash their new virus upon the world, the moment anyone isolates and sequences that virus, the world would know it was created, not the result of natural mutation....”
Don’t you even read what you write? Your scenario is what took place. I know you like to think that scientists are beyond reproach, but they are all human and subject to being influenced one way or another. (I am not saying all, so don’t even go there-and please change your name-there is not truth to it, unless you are saying you are still a dem but an ex mom).
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I already explained to someone else that they can prove I'm lying, in this post #52.
Feel free to do the genetic analysis yourself and post here the results showing clearly that SARS-CoV-2 was bioengineered and that it bears no resemblance to other coronaviruses. Show the evidence that it contains sequences it could not possibly have naturally. If you are going to call me a liar, prove it.
come on now, where is your faith in government? Just believe!
The only biological warfare advantage the West has over the ChiComs the the heterogeneity of its peoples vs. the monolithic Han population.
Lead author Siyang Liu, a geneticist at the University of Copenhagen, tells Steph Yin of The New York Times that the Han, who make up 92 percent of China's population, are genetically homogenous, with differences largely based on geographic residence in northern versus southern regions.
Source: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/largest-ever-study-chinese-peoples-genetics-reveals-insights-migration-patterns-diet-disease-180970528/
That’s all well and good, BUT...
A naturally occuring virus would have had numerous outbreaks with each outbreak increasing in size long before becoming a global pandemic.
Since I looked up this to show I wasn’t making things up I thought I would share with everyone.
2020 Republican report on origins of COVID 19:
At this point I really don’t give a Duck anymore. If I die, I die. As it is I am sick to death of all this non-stop CRAP
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