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White House: We Want Pauses ‘Irrespective of a Hostage Deal’ But Israel Wouldn’t Do That
Breitbart ^ | 11/22/2033 | Ian hatchett

Posted on 11/22/2023 6:10:44 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

On Wednesday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Andrea Mitchell Reports,” White House Coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa Brett McGurk said that the White House supports “humanitarian pauses irrespective of a hostage deal” but President Joe Biden realized the only way to get a humanitarian pause was to have an agreement to bring hostages home.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: applyforwelfare; biden; bidenvoters; donatefreerepublic; fjb; hostage; israel; paused; war; whitehouse
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To: Long Jon No Silver

RE: U.S state department. Full of Arabphiles

Yeah, lucky for us that Islam is a religion of peace./S


61 posted on 11/23/2023 10:18:55 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: bigfootbob

Sorry if the truth hurts. One sign of a very low IQ is to believe since one has not heard of something, it didn’t happen.


62 posted on 11/23/2023 1:48:39 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Right Wing Jews destabilize Muslim countries, Left Wing Jews bring the Refugees to the West)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

It’s also extremely low IQ to spew liberal talking points ad nauseam.


63 posted on 11/23/2023 3:56:35 PM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: bigfootbob

I have never heard any liberals claim this.

Apparently anything you disagree with and have never heard is a “liberal talking point.”

I guess ignorance is bliss


64 posted on 11/23/2023 4:34:40 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Right Wing Jews destabilize Muslim countries, Left Wing Jews bring the Refugees to the West)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

“I guess ignorance is bliss”

You certainly proved that point.


65 posted on 11/23/2023 4:38:25 PM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: bigfootbob

Hey, sorry if Israel is suffering blowback from the creation and support of Hamas.

Sorry that right wing evangelicals in the US think Israel is perfect. They seem happy to accept millions of Gazan refugees.


66 posted on 11/23/2023 5:14:15 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Right Wing Jews destabilize Muslim countries, Left Wing Jews bring the Refugees to the West)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

I’m sorry you have selective learning issues. You also suffer from affective realism disorder, please try and find support, there’s really no cure.


67 posted on 11/24/2023 7:18:03 AM PST by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

The claim is as false as the stupid claim that the US supported OBL in the Afghan Soviet war.

Unsupported by facts.


68 posted on 11/24/2023 11:41:08 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Reagan Conservative: Economic Freedom, Peace through Strength, American Values- De Oppresso Liber)
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To: EinNYC; woodpusher
Arab authors. Proves NOTHING.

Mehdi Hasan isn't an Arab. He's a British-American of Indian descent.

69 posted on 11/25/2023 10:03:08 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: EinNYC; Ultra Sonic 007
Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

Arab authors. Proves NOTHING.

A natural born UK citizen, author Medi Hasan was born in Swindon, England of Indian parents. He became an American citizen in 2020.

Quoted sources Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, Avner Cohen, and David Hacham are not Arabs either.

I provide the previously linked and cited article below so you can read it for the first time.

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/

BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

Mehdi Hasan, Dina Sayedahmed
February 19 2018, 7:00 a.m.

What do you know about Hamas?

That it’s sworn to destroy Israel? That it’s a terrorist group, proscribed both by the United States and the European Union? That it rules Gaza with an iron fist? That it’s killed hundreds of innocent Israelis with rocket, mortar, and suicide attacks?

But did you also know that Hamas — which is an Arabic acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” — would probably not exist today were it not for the Jewish state? That the Israelis helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the late 1970s into one of the world’s most notorious militant groups? That Hamas is blowback?

This isn’t a conspiracy theory. Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”

“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists. “I … suggest focusing our efforts on finding ways to break up this monster before this reality jumps in our face,” he wrote.

They didn’t listen to him. And Hamas, as I explain in the fifth installment of my short film series for The Intercept on blowback, was the result. To be clear: First, the Israelis helped build up a militant strain of Palestinian political Islam, in the form of Hamas and its Muslim Brotherhood precursors; then, the Israelis switched tack and tried to bomb, besiege, and blockade it out of existence.

In the past decade alone, Israel has gone to war with Hamas three times — in 2009, 2012, and 2014 — killing around 2,500 Palestinian civilians in Gaza in the process. Meanwhile, Hamas has killed far more Israeli civilians than any secular Palestinian militant group. This is the human cost of blowback.

“When I look back at the chain of events, I think we made a mistake,” David Hacham, a former Arab affairs expert in the Israeli military who was based in Gaza in the 1980s, later remarked. “But at the time, nobody thought about the possible results.”

They never do, do they?


70 posted on 11/27/2023 3:36:20 AM PST by woodpusher
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