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Climate change is hastening the demise of Pacific Northwest forests (aka, "Firmageddon")
Oregon Public Broadcasting ("OPB") / Columbia Insight ^ | November 17, 2023 | Nathan Gilles

Posted on 11/18/2023 8:26:08 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom

Iconic red cedars — known as the “Tree of Life” — in the Pacific Northwest have been dying because of climate-induced drought. Deep inside a forest in Oregon’s Willamette Valley stands a dead “Tree of Life.” Its foliage, normally soft and green, is tough and brown or missing altogether. Nonetheless, the tree’s reddish bark, swooping branches and thick, conical base identify it as the Pacific Northwest’s iconic western red cedar.

The rings become thinner over time, indicating the tree’s growth slowed before the tree finally died, a sign that this red cedar died from drought. “That’s why it’s the canary,” says Buhl. “Any tree that’s less drought tolerant is going to be the canary in the coal mine. They’re going to start bailing (out).”

For thousands of years, people have used red cedar to make everything from canoes to clothing. Red cedar’s many uses have earned the species endearing names, including the “Tree of Life.” More recently, scientists have started calling this water-loving relative of redwoods by a less flattering name: “the climate canary.”

Last year, Buhl and colleagues reported that red cedars were dying throughout the tree's growing range not because of a fungus or insect attack, but due to the region's "climate change-induced drought." In recent years, at least 15 native Pacific Northwest tree species have experienced growth declines and die-offs, 10 of which have been linked to drought and warming temperatures, according to recent studies and reports.

Many researchers, Buhl included, are now arguing that these drought-driven die-offs are the beginning of a much larger and long-predicted shift in tree growing ranges due to climate change.

Daniel DePinte, Forest Service aerial survey program manager, suspects range changes are driving “Firmageddon". “The forests are moving uphill,” said DePinte.

(Excerpt) Read more at opb.org ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: climate; firmageddon; redcedar; trees
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I just looked up a chart showing Seattle's annual rainfall for the past 100 years or wo. Granted, Seattle is only one place, but I would not expect the totals to be any LESS than in the mountains.

Between 1964 and 1979, there was 1 year with less than 30 inches, 11 years with 30-39 inches, and 4 years with 40+ inches.

Between 2002 and 2022, there were zero years with less than 30 inches, 11 years with 30-39 inches, and 11 years with 40+ inches. Seven of the last nine years have had 40+ years. I see no evidence of a significant drought, or any drought..
41 posted on 11/18/2023 11:55:57 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Glad2bnuts
I wonder if they've ever considered this as a problem source...

IDAHO DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES
Cloud Seeding Program

What is Cloud Seeding?
Cloud seeding is a form of weather modification that increases the efficiency of a cloud by enhancing its natural ability to produce precipitation.

Why do we seed clouds?
In Idaho, cloud seeding is used during the cold season to augment high elevation snowpack, our primary storage reservoirs. In other areas of the United States and around the world, cloud seeding is also used for rain enhancement during warm seasons, hail mitigation to reduce damage to crops and infrastructure, and for fog suppression around airports.

Active Cloud Seeding Programs in Idaho
The Idaho Collaborative Cloud Seeding Program | Boise, Wood, and Upper Snake River Basins
• Operated by Idaho Power Company (IPC) in partnership with the IWRB and local water users
• Remote Ground & Aircraft

Idaho Power Company | Payette River Basin
• Operated by Idaho Power Company in coordination with the Idaho Collaborative Cloud Seeding Program
• Remote ground & aircraft

High Country Resource Conservation & Development (HCRCD) | Upper Snake River Basin
• Operated by Let it Snow, Inc
• Manual ground

State of Utah | Box Elder and Cache County
• Operated by North American Weather Consultants
• Manual ground

42 posted on 11/18/2023 12:06:52 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Good data. Thanks.


43 posted on 11/18/2023 12:10:43 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Fact: The Earth has been warming for 20,000 years. Get over it.


44 posted on 11/18/2023 12:57:36 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Eva

I never thought of that. Do you have any proof? It makes sense. I live in Lewis Cty, WA and the trees close to I 5 are about 15 feet off of the road, and it is a natural place to accumulate water. The trees seem to be over watered, they surely are not the victims of drought. Half of the year if you walk there it is squishy with water. Very interesting, and yes the State is in total control of the water resources.


45 posted on 11/18/2023 1:07:54 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
...stands a dead “Tree of Life.”


46 posted on 11/18/2023 1:37:02 PM PST by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

What does the material “seeded” into the clouds contain? What effect does it cause to the foliage, lakes and streams? Questions I would like answers to.


47 posted on 11/18/2023 1:50:48 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I just got the energy report from our thermostat for October. Talk about year-to-year variability (over here on the Idaho Panhandle):

October 2022
Avg Hi: 64°
Avg Lo: 44°
Heating: 45 hours

October 2023
Avg Hi: 59°
Avg Lo: 41°
Heating: 82 hours

Avg high was FIVE degrees cooler.
Avg low was THREE degrees cooler.

The funny thing is that we had snow on the ground in November 2022 and it didn’t go away until late April.


48 posted on 11/18/2023 2:07:34 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Idiots


49 posted on 11/18/2023 2:10:27 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: Eva

“artificial raising of the water table”

That’s interesting because any place near agriciulture has seen the aquifers go down. We have an interesting aquifer over here in North Idaho / Northeastern Washington. It’s all rock and sand, so very porous. HUGE amount of water flow through it originating in the mountains.

In California’s agricultural regions, the aquifers are down hundreds of feet. Even in urban San Jose, the aquifer is way down because it was a heavy fruit-growing region in the mid- to late-1800s right up to the post WW II years. Then suburbs were built and industry came in and that was the end of ag.


50 posted on 11/18/2023 2:12:32 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Hey, I’ll bet climate change also caused the demise of the dinosaurs. We can ask Nancy Pelosi if that’s true since she was probably there when it happen.


51 posted on 11/18/2023 2:26:15 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Their cry has been to put the water back into the ground where they say it will benefit the salmon. They have been building culverts all over the county to connect roadside drainage ditches, streams and seasonal creeks to either the Nooksack river or the sound, so that they can claim control for waters of the world. They have had us on year around water rationing for three or four years, right through the floods and they refuse to do any dredging or dyeing to help the town of Sumas with the flooding.

Last year, the Supreme Court ruled against connecting streams and ditches to connect land to the oceans in the case of the Amish communities in the Lancaster area of PA, but I don’t know if that ruling is applicable here.

This all was in the courts in WA due to the Lummi Tribe and Democrat support. I was posting about it on the WSJ web site (back when I was a subscriber) and people replied from Australia, saying that the same thing was going on there and Africa.

What I learned from fighting them is that the activists, who actually come up with the proposals, don’t have the slightest idea of what they are doing and don’t really care about the ultimate results.

I saw property owners crying at county council meetings over the high fines that were being placed on them, that they couldn’t possibly pay. I saw a small developer cry at a meeting where they were explaining the new wetland rules, which were bing put in place, that were going to take a quarter of the land that he was trying to develop. Then there were the property owners who were not allowed to put further develop their own property, or were denied water rights for property they owned in the county.

Then, on top of that, all the trees are dying all over the county. The lake that they used as the center of their water reclamation, was reduced in depth from thirteen feet to maybe 6 feet and is now clogged with milfoil and dead fish. Oh, and the dock is rotting, so bad that a family member put their foot right through it. The whole purpose of this water control is to restrict development in rural areas, nothing else.

In Eastern WA, they have water rationing for agriculture, but agriculture now includes marijuana and hemp. I hear that in northern CA, the marijuana farming has been taken over by the cartels and Asians. Do you see that is WA?


52 posted on 11/18/2023 3:51:03 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

Wow, I thought the SCOTUS ruling in favor of the Sacketts on Priest Lake, Idaho was going to put an end to a lot of those abuses. That sounds truly awful.


53 posted on 11/18/2023 4:32:20 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

At some point in the Whatcom County rural control fight, it declared that the activists actually had no authority to level fines on small farmers and rural property owners and that part of it ended. They had actually frightened a lot of the small farmers into dining farm plans that they had drawn up, which gave these activists permission to enter their property to do inspections at will. In the end they had to get Pacific legal to release the county from the hold of the activists. One issue they held onto was wetlands and set backs from any body of water. The set backs in many cases, made the land unbuildable. On top of that they came up with the idea of cluster building in rural areas, which put the houses ten feet from the property line, putting houses twenty feet apart on five acre lots.


54 posted on 11/18/2023 4:46:24 PM PST by Eva
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To: Glad2bnuts

geoengineeringwatch.org

.

This guy started out trying to find out why his trees and fish were dying.

He
Found
Out

Ever wonder why all the people who never smoked a cigarette their whole life

....now have COPD ?.

Every time they spray my blue sky into complete overcast in 4 hours I can’t breath worth crap.

Im allergic to aluminum.

Lucky me.

Spit.


55 posted on 11/19/2023 2:27:58 PM PST by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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